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Oh, Hello: MA DB Jordan Lucas Commits to Penn State

Jordan Lucas, Ladies and Gentlemen!

Stats
Home/HS: New Rochelle HS (NY)/Worcester Academy (MA)
Height: 6'-6'1"
Weight: Quite a variance across the site, so we'll average and say 185 lbs.

Starz 'n Sheetz
Stars: 3* (247Sports, Rivals, Scout)
Offer sheet: Akron, Massachusetts, Old Dominion, Temple

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The Tale

Lucas is the first commitment of the Bill O'Brien era, and is indicative of the type of player you'll see fill out this class. That's not to say that Lucas is a bad player (quite the contrary, actually), but if you are anticipating offer sheets with names like Alabama, Florida, Texas, and Oregon for the remaining committments, you're in for quite a surprise.

Originally planning to commit to Temple last week, Lucas postponed that decision until he heard from the Penn State coaches about an offer. That word came through Monday evening, following an in-home visit and follow-up phone call. Lucas was visited by Coaches Roof, Vanderlinden, and Butler.

Lucas had heard from Penn State in the past, and even took an unofficial visit, but didn't receive his offer until Monday, and accepted on the spot. Other schools that were pursuing Lucas, though that hadn't offered, include Connecticut, Virginia, and Rutgers.

Outlook

In what could turn out to be a huge steal in the Class of 2012, Jordan Lucas comes to Penn State as a consensus three-star player, but with tape that would suggest otherwise. There are some reports floating around that grades were an issue, which could explain his one year stint at a post-graduate academy in Massachusetts, but whether or not those reports are true is immaterial now. He has cleared Penn State's still-high academic standards and plans on being on campus this summer.

Lucas is a quick, slippery player on offense, but will project into the defensive backfield at Penn State. Whether this means safety or corner is debatable, as different analysts have different projections for Lucas. He can play on the line at cornerback, but also has quick closing speed for a safety. Penn State did not have a defensive back taller than 6'1" on last year's official roster, so Lucas already comes in on the high side. However, we still don't know what kinds of players Coach Butler and Coach Roof will be looking for in the next few years.

The downside here, through no fault of Lucas', is that his offer and commitment come almost simultaneously with Penn State's in-home visit with Armani Reeves. Did the staff learn something in that meeting that would suggest the need to offer Lucas? That's unclear as of yet. Reeves and teammate Cam Williams are set to be on campus in a couple of weeks (where Coach O'Brien would have off regardless of the Patriots standing in the playoffs). With national signing day 15 days away, the decisions for those two players appear to be coming down to the wire.

Either way, welcome to Penn State, Jordan!

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Comments

Maybe one MA DB can convince another MA DB.

Goodness knows, I’ve only lived in MA for 6 months now and if there’s one thing I’ve learned, it’s that New Englanders take care of each other.

Newest Targets

Looking at the film of Lucas and another rumored target Okezie Alozie, one thing I like is their versatility. I agree with the assessment that Lucas will most likely play CB, but he does look very good as a RB. From Alozie’s film, he looks like the prototypical PSU running back. Maybe I’m over stating things, but these could be Plan B’s in case Akeel Lynch decides Happy Valley isn’t for him. Any thoughts?

Think we are just filling out the class

I agree that the versatility looks great. I would not worry about the connection with the other guys, as we have room and are probably taking any quality player we can get right now. We are not dealing with having too many commits, unless I am terribly mistaken.

Especially if they're going to revamp the offense from the ground up

I’d think almost anyone on the current roster and among the recruits who can play a role in the new offense has a shot at a starting position. If you think moving Chaz Powell to DB was a big change, just wait until Belton is the QB next year and Pete Massaro is a pass catching TE.

Plan 'B'

looking more and more like a lot further down the alphabet

SAD TROMBONE
What are you gonna do this year?

If Bob got everyone on your wish list after what went down we’d have to build a golden idol to him and burn some offerings.

There are 15 days left before NLOI Day.

The options are limited. Let him finish this class out as best he can and start in on the 20-25 guys we’ll be looking to take next year. Paging Adam Breneman…

Looks like a strong, athletic kid

If his future is on D, I like that he seems to look for the ball. If his future is on O, he might need to work on some ball security. But I think he is a good pickup.

I didn't break down the depth chart

But it doesn’t seem to me like this conflicts with still trying to get Armani Reeves. Didn’t we have three starting defensive backs graduate this year? Even if we have enough guys to fill the depth chart at the moment, 1) the coaches might want guys who they think would be better in the new defense, and 2) they might want to add depth for a certain year down the line.

The two deep that Jeff

posted a little back suggests the same. PSU needs bodies in the defensive backfield.

Getting them both would be great.

As well as keeping Malik Golden, and picking up Demetrious Cox.

thus begins the reign of John Butler

and I remember a pretty successful dback who switched to offense…

Shelly Hammonds?
don't be a tease

you know I mean Deon “throw the ball to” Butler

Looks like Stephfon Green

Who was also listed as a DB coming out of high school.

so was Silas Redd
I call Shenanigans on that

I don’t recall anyone doubting he would be a RB at the next level.

I don't know if he was *listed* as a DB.

But PSU wanted him to play DB initially. Luckily, Silas talked them out of it.

actually I think a lot of people did initially

it wasnt until he hit up some camps alongside Lattimore that people started to see he was something special.

out of curiosity

can we expect a Tuesday Recruitin sometime in the future. Really interested to see a round up of where we stand after this past weekend.

Not today.

Last week’s was postponed to put up a post closer to the weekend, and this one will be postponed because of the weekend. I ate something in New Orleans that just didn’t agree with me, and have been on my couch for a couple days now.

Most of the news out of the weekend is good news. The majority of the commits made statements that reaffirmed their solid commitments. Some are still wavering and we’ll keep an eye on that, as well. Finally, Cox enjoyed his visit, which bodes well for us. I’ll hopefully have something up at the end of the week. Also, every site that covers CFB, including this one, should be working on a Signing Day primer, so watch for that. Ours will probably go up sometime next week.

That always happens to me in New Orleans

I haven’t figured out if it’s the beer, the hurricanes, the hand grenades, the wine, the liquor, or the cigars down there.

At first I thought it was the three consecutive days of debauchery.

But I’ve done that before, and have never felt like this. Gotta fight through, I suppose.

Oh, and the turtle soup

food poisoning in a bowl.

It was the krystal burgers

Either too many or not enough.

This kid looks like a player

and I love the way he read that little WR screen late in the video. He’s from New Ro, which is where Ray Rice played his HS ball.

I’m from that area, played ball there, have former teammates that coached against him. They say good things. I’m thinking that as a D-Back, he may have a bit of an adjustment as New Ro plays in Section 1 in NYS…very run heavy section of NY (Ray Rice, Matt Bernstein), where the QBs aren’t all that great. A lot of teams in that area still run a ton of Wing T. He’ll have to adjust to QBs who won’t give him that much time to close on a ball that’s in the air.

Hopefully, he’ll grow into his frame…he definitely looks quick enough to play CB.

same HS

I’m from the same HS that produced Mike Reid ,John Ebersole,and Brad Benson. Did their ability transfer to me because I went to the same HS? Did Danny Fortson, Doug West, Mike Iuzzolino,and Johhny Moore also give me their basketball ability? I think not!

No it certainly doesn't...

…but if he was coached up by the same coaching staff that has put a couple of players into FBS ball and also coached one NFL All-Pro then it’s worth mentioning…especially in that area where not too many guys end up playing ball.

New Ro is about as close to a football factory as you’ll get in that Section of NYS (and that isn’t saying much). Maybe their coaches do a better job of coaching these guys and putting them in position to succeed at the next level.

Although again, the competition is worse in that area than what you’ll find most everywhere else and as one of the larger down-county schools just a few minutes from NYC, they’ve been known to draw some better athletes up from the Bronx, etc just to play sports. The rest of that section is made up mostly of under-sized Italian kids who are more focused on lacrosse than football.

….but again, like I said earlier…judging from the tape, the kid seems to have the quickness and physical skills to compete at the next level regardless. Excited about him.

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

Always interested to see what the actual competition is like for some of the northeast kids, where the scouting exposure isn’t as great.

Junny..

Any chance this class finishes in the top 25 if Williams and Reeves jump onboard?

I doubt it.

And even though they are technically on board, I see what you mean. If we keep everyone and land Cox, then MAYBE. But if we continue to finish with these last-minute guys, we’ll stay outside the top 25.

Got it..

I ask not so much because I carea bout how it looks on paper, but as a general indicator as to the quality of players coming home.

Well there currently is a wide separation among rankings.

247 has them at 29, which means we’d likely move into Top 25 with Cox, holding everyone else, and a couple more guys. However, Scout has them at 39, which means no chance. And each of those ranking already take into consideration Cam and Armani.

Top 25 in which ranking?

And is that total points or average stars?

recruits

Ohio ST gets Spence and Schutt and PSU beats out UMASS, ODU,and Akron for a recruit. More dividends from the Sandusky debacle.

They got those guys a couple of weeks ago, not two weeks prior to NLOI Day.

Like I said, there just aren’t that many recruits left, at least not that many that we’d be in the running for.

did you change your name, rumple?
How'd getting Pryor work out

for the Nuts?

Not too shabby, the scandal notwithstanding.

Sure everyone will look at his time as a black mark on OSU because of what he caused in the aftermath, but his time on the field wasn’t too bad. Didn’t he have 30+ wins in three years, including a Rose Bowl? I’d take that.

Disagree, Junny.

If it weren’t for the JS nuclear explosion, there is a chance we would be taking recruits from OSU instead of the other way around. No CCG and bowl games for a year could have swayed some of these kids, who appear to measure their college life in months rather than in four-five year commitments. Slight exaggeration, of course, but there are kids who pick a school “knowing” it is their gateway to the NFL, rather than as an educational opportunity.

Just my humble opinion — somewhat borne out by graduation rates.

But your question was "How'd Pryor work out?"

And despite all the shit he gets all over the country, deserved or otherwise, his OSU teams won at a pretty handy clip. Off the field, Columbus was apparently a dumpster fire, but I’d take their on-field success from 08-10 any day.

Now, if you want to debate recruiting and the three different scenarios that could be happening (1: JS never happens, TatGate still does; 2: JS happens, TatGate doesn’t; or 3: neither ever happen) in addition to the current scenarion (4: both JS and TatGate happen), I’m happy to go that route, though a vast majority of it will be speculation.

He got their sainted coach fired.

Sure they got Meyer eventually, but they also got a vacated season (so, not 30 wins) and a year of Fickell. I work with O$U guys who wish more than anything that he had gone to Michigan. Of course, these are guys who actually care about the image of their school and not just winning.

Right, but I'm talking solely on the field.

If you can somehow ignore everything else, his success wasn’t too bad. Sure, I’d rather have Matt McGloin that Pryor, with all the baggage that each came with. But if you’re talking just on-field, Pryor had the level of success almost everyone here wishes for.

I guess I meant overall, not just

on the field. We’ve had some players do well on the field that should have been kept under lock and key the other 6.5 days.

Granted, the fall out from the Pryor scandal was like eating

a bag of farts for a year…BUT…33-2 as a starter, 3 Big Ten titles (1 vacated, which quite frankly I don’t give two hoots about) a Rose Bowl win over a a very good Oregon team, and a Sugar Bowl win (again vacated, again I don’t care) over a very good Arkansas team.

I trade that for one crappy year, a one year bowl ban, and Urban Meyer as the coach?

Yeah, 8 times out of 7 I’ll make that trade.

reports that grades were an issue

Gee ,I thought he went to prep school to work on his med school admission test.

Or to get another year of football under his belt, which a lot of kids do.

Some don’t like the offers they get out of school, so they take another year, grow stronger, smarter, etc., and do the process all over again. I’ll take a prep kid any day, as that’s just another year of football he’s played.

Junny, how many spots are left in this class?

I see that on Scout, there are 15 commits and that includes the soft verbals by Reeves, Williams, Wilkerson, Golden and Wartman.

Also, has the Noah Spence ship officially sailed to Columbus? Is he even considering talking to BOB and LJ?

Also,

what’s the status on D. Cox? That would be a nice get.

We're at 15.

If you look at last week’s post that Mike and I did on the Depth Chart, our end of 2011 number was 67. That means 18 spots available. However, what kind of attrition can we expect? Beachum is already gone…who is next? I guessed 23 at the very beginning of this class, and I think that might be one or two high.

Noah is definitely gone. One of the premium site guys caught up with Noah’s dad Greg, who said Noah would be at Ohio State.

I think we’re in the driver’s seat with Cox, but it looks like he’ll take his recruitment down to the wire. It appears to be a B1G battle against OSU (who might be out of the running after cancelling his visit last weekend) and MSU.

Thanks Junny.

I appreciate the analysis and info.

And you’re right, Beachum is probably done. And Sczerba isn’t being given another year for medical issues.

I was wondering why the one PSU plane kept flying to Worcester

I just thought they were confused as to where BOB lives, heh.

My take from a very NON expert in these matters

Attrition is definitely thinning the DB depth chart this year as every starter is graduating.

If things go the way we all hope and PSU keeps Reeves and lands Cox as well, this dude will provide some needed depth. You never know how players pan out. At worst, he doesn’t ever crack the starting rotation but contributes in practice, special teams, scout team. At best, he ends up being a diamond in the rough (see Malcom Willis, Adrian Amos, etc) and really blows up.

What is the last word on Newsome?

I thought i read a couple months back during the good days of the " Great QB Debate", aka Jan 1- Oct 31, that he was still attending Penn State. Is this true? Or did he transfer? Forgive me if this common knowledge

He is not enrolled anywhere.

He left, is working on his music I believe. Last I heard, he was also traveling and interviewing schools at which to enroll, but has not done so yet.

I hope he sticks with school

and goes on to a productive career. Always seemed like a very nice kid.

Nice signing for BOB

Now let’s poach some players from Rutgers, Maryland, Pitt and the like!

Two new offers went out today.

Not sure who/where, but they will be on campus this weekend so I’m sure we’ll find out soon enough.

Curt Warner

Wasn’t his son recently offered? He’s supposedly a late bloomer and is projected as a WR.

Jonathan Warner.

Supposedly offered and gladly (unofficially) accepted.

Warner here this weekend

Some reports had him here this past weekend but were wrong. I hear now he’s coming this weekend with his dad.

There’s a short ESPN video feature on the Warner family here. They have twin boys, a year younger than Jonathon, who are autistic. Its obvious Jonathon is a well raised, intelligent kid. Just the kind we hope to continue to bring to PSU.

Looks like this weekend will be another decent visit lineup.

Also, the article you’re likely referring to (on 247?) shows that we’re eyeing up a certain school…

I was talking about the tweet only,

since the rest is behind a paywall. Although since then tweets have gone up revealing that both play at Calvert Hall.

Also, and far more importantly, that Akeel Lynch has decommitted from BC and will be in town this weekend!! YEAHHHH.

Two Calvert Hall (home of Adrian Amos) kids, Akeel Lynch, Curt Warner's son, and our new QB offer.

As of now. And it’s only Tuesday.

I’m predicting three sirens.

And now an OL

offer that went out today also, yes?

Yup, just saw that.

At first I was afraid, I was petrified excited, but I hope they don’t plan on closing out the class this weekend. I sure hope they leave room for Cox and anyone else that they had been pursuing for awhile.

Also hope this isn’t an indication that Armani and Cam are goners.

And a LB from Alabama.

Who can keep up with these?

Two LB offers just went out.

I don’t think either are visiting, though. Don’t think we have much chance, either.

Although these things do make me a little nervous that they believe Cam is gone....
Ohio ST recruits

decommitted to go to Mich. Penn ST recruits decommit and go to Ohio St. Penn ST is left with licking the bottom of the barrel. By the way , O’Connor reportedly heading Ohio State’s way. Can anyone stop the bleeding?

Still a Pryor fan, spudnuts?
I'm a huge fan of Bolden and McGloin
As you should be.
I gave up on Pryor

and I’m now wearing a #17 Lavon Chisley jersey.

O'Connor committed to Ohio State today.
Man, I cant wait until Meyer retires again.
Per Jones on twitter:

Ben_Jones88 Ben Jones
RT @Lions247: Four-star RB Akeel Lynch decommits from Boston College, will visit PSU this weekend.

fingers crossed
With all due respect to Ben,

That’s from Lions247.

And this weekend is shaping up quite nicely. Guess I have to put together another Friday visit post.

Yeah I saw that after I posted. I should have said that. I do not follow Lions247.

I would.

Sean is great at scooping the major recruiting news. Even if you’re only partially interested, his updates are pretty good. If you’re actually interested in recruiting, I recommend a L247 subscription.

/not a paid endorser

I will definitely will go check him out.

I have never signed up for either...

but have been considering it. Would you take L247 over FOS?

That's a tough call right now.

Sean is doing a helluva job, but it’s only him at L247 (though he gets help from the other sites, as well as the regional and national guys). FOS is more staffed (thus more input), but that is also a minus sometimes, as some of the mods there are…poor moderators. They’ll all have the same news eventually, so I suppose it’s a matter of quality vs. quantity for you.

As for the boards, FOS is more established, so more content/commenters, but that too can be a downfall, with petty squabbling and in-fighting getting in the way of sometimes good information…

Thanks for the info

I guess the best thing for me to do would be to try the 7 day free trial for both and then pick one. Always like to get the perspective of someone who has already used them though.

petty squabbling and in-fighting

getting in the way of sometimes good information…

That NEVER happens here.

/glaresatJoehaters

Not sure where else to post this...

@Jeff_McLane
Jeff McLane
For PSU fans, Mornhinweg’s future could affect whether his son stays with Lions. I hear Skyler won’t make final decision until last weekend.

From an Eagles beat writer. Marty Mornhinweg has an interview with the Raiders for the HC position.

It makes sense.

Hopefully Skyler stays committed, but you can’t fault him wanting to stay close to family. Now if his dad takes an Oakland job and Skyler decommits for OSU, then you can be mad.

It should be noted that we offered another QB recently, who will be on campus this weekend. Fingers crossed that we can have two QBs in this class…

What QB was that?

It's still premium, but it's no one that has been on our radar recently.

Not a high-star, high-offer guy, but would be a nice complement to Mornhinweg.

Ah, nice. Depth never hurts.

Yeah, makes sense and I won’t be mad if he chooses a west coast school in that case. We’ll just have to wait and see.

Haha,

he’s not from the same school is he? That would be funny.

The QB offer

This week went to Steven Bench from GA. He’s currently a Rice commit.

He definitely decommitted

from Rice. Penn State must now beat out Juniata and Albright for his commitment.

...

Everytime I see this dude pop up,

I think Mark Schlereth.

Maybe Mrs. Mornhinweg will decommit from

Marty, and keep Skyler here on the East Coast.

Is Mrs. Mornhiweg hot?

We could get some volunteers to spearhead the effort.

recruiting class

I am not sure who said it, but this is NOT a very good class. They may find some of the players they have will be successful but based on overall class rankings this is way down. Before the scandal hit, PSU had (according to Rivals) the 11th ranked class in the country. We were still behind Ohio St. and Michigan even though they were coming off of violations and a poor season respectively. As a huge Penn St. fan I will be the 1st to admit that we have done poorly recruiting against OSU and MU in the past and due to the scandal we face an uphill battle. Fans have to understand that for years a “dark cloud” will be over the football program.

I think Urban Meyer being hired in Columbus

and PSU not having a head coach for 2 months affected this year’s class way more than the scandal.

debatable

the negative recruiting is probably off the charts

Well, yes, and all that stuff is probably related.
It's good odds that

Urbs bails on the Suckeyes within five years. I think he has adult ADHD, and will get bored quickly.

I dont want that to be the reason.

I want him to quit because BOB is beating him into the ground year after year and Meyer has to think to himself “Man… I should have taken that PSU job”.

Oh how I wish that could be true

but it likely will not happen. OSU has had great classes even before Urban got there. Having 1st hand knowledge he is an outstanding recruiter so likely OSU will start routinely having top 5 classes every year. I agree though he probably wont be around too long. Penn St. will have to start to keep all the PA & NJ kids like they used to do, then tap into OH, MI, VA, MD SC and FL for various kids but that will take a while.

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