Ah, the annual HIT debate. Well, it looks like this is one season we won't have you to kick around, as sources are saying that John Thomas has been relieved of his duties as Strength and Conditioning coach at Penn State.
HIT, or High Intensity Training, had been the conditioning method of Penn State football players since Thomas' hire in 1991. Critics pointed to the larger, stronger football players at rival schools as evidence that the program simply didn't work to its desired effectiveness.
Since the good majority of the writers on staff here know little to nothing about weight training and conditioning, we asked a familiar face to provide some commentary. What he wrote for us was actually going to be featured in the John Thomas "Meet the Coaches" segment in about 10 days. But since that is now gone, this will have to serve as a goodbye post to John Thomas at the HIT debate.

Ahhh, High Intensity Training. Sound fun? It’s not. Atall. Unless of course you like throwing up or not being able to stand after doing several minutes worth of leg presses or wind sprints. Which in that case, you’re one of those workout weirdoes or a Navy Seal. Good for you.
You ever see that SNLskit with Farley, Carvey, and I think Emilio Estevez was in there…"How Much ‘Ya Bench?". It’s funny. HIT doesn’t think it’s funny. HIT throws the notion that max bench press matters out the window.
Would you believe me if I told you that as a multiyear starter in the Big Ten I never benched over 315 pounds? It’s true. BUT, I repped 315 pounds 9 times once and could rep 225 in the high 20’s. HIT focuses on getting muscle groups used to, or close to, complete failure (i.e.: not having the ability to even use that muscle anymore temporarily).
Think about that. Think about doing 20 repetitions on a leg press machine, not being able to do any more, then your spotter takes 20 pounds off so you can squeeze out a few more reps, then 20 more pounds off, and so on, until there is no weight on the bar and you can’t even extend your legs.
There are two main reasons to train this way; first, it’s safer. Strapping on as much weight as possible and "maxing out" puts undue stress on the joints and muscles. HIT uses lower weights in a more controlled fashion. Second, HIT is designed to get muscles conditioned to perform over longer periods of time. This is the old "we don’t get tired in the 4th quarter" mantra that football teams and trainers love. Except for the rare physical freak of nature like Kareem McCenzie or Levi Brown, you don’t see too many 310+ pounders coming out of PSU.
Joe Paterno loathed overweight linemen. The worst thing that happened to me was the Broncos winning those Super Bowlswith 280-285 pounders and Joe was vindicated (I struggled staying at or around 290). I remember killing myself one summer and reported at like 288 pounds. Joe walked around the stretching line with his weigh-in sheet, paused at me and said "288, huh? Imagine how good you’d look at 280…" I’ve never wanted to hit a 70+ year old in his gigantic testicles before, but I digress. Our S&C program is designed to have fit, strong players who can go the distance.
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But now, that era is gone. John Thomas is out, and will hopefully be replaced on short notice by Bill O'Brien. Winter workouts are very important to the strength and conditioning of a program, so a new coordinator is needed ASAP. There are a few names being thrown about at the moment, but we'll bring you a new "Meet the Coaches" posts as soon as we learn who the next strength guru is at Penn State.
Ed. - Contributing to this post was a former Penn State offensive lineman, who signed with the Washington Redskins and also played in the XFL. Suffice it to say, this man knows what he's talking about. Many of you know him, as he is a frequent contributor in the comments section. However, he has asked us to keep his identity relatively anonymous. Please respect these wishes if you are familiar with this man.
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Somewhere out there....
STL is smiling.
Tailgate Shogun - January 20, 2012
Ear to ear
SweepTheLeg - January 20, 2012
Great article and perspective by our resident former O-Lineman.
Not ever doubting HITs is a good program but not for O-line playing football.
HITs/Crossfit type of workouts are awesome for Military, Police, etc…not great for football.
Our guys might not be tired in the 4th quarter but they were not dominating the line of scrimmage and functionally strong enough to for big time FB…just my opinion
SweepTheLeg - January 20, 2012
I have a hard time contesting that.
hbeach08 - January 20, 2012
bad News
Cam Williams is gone. Just committed to OSU. Damn I hate Urban Meyer
zernbabyzern - January 20, 2012 via iPhone app
Same here...
That sucks. Oh well, maybe we’ll gain a commit back, there are a lot of decommits out there. Let’s hope we can grab one.
OLDLIONofNYC - January 20, 2012
It's disappointing
But I’ll never miss a guy who never stepped on the field wearing Blue & White.
kijana's acl - January 20, 2012
good point
I guess I’ll wish him luck as much as it pains me to do so. I’m fine with the LB outlook for our team for a couple years anyways.
zernbabyzern - January 20, 2012 via iPhone app
Sorry
He’s a Buckeye. He gets no warm wishes from me. I don’t wish him ill will, but nothing good either. If he had committed to a Pac-12 or ACC program, no problem. Just not the Buckeyes.
kijana's acl - January 20, 2012
Reminds me of my favorite Moe quote:
And I’m a well-wisher in that I don’t wish you any specific harm
Esteban d' Amur - January 20, 2012
I hope he does well -
just not at our expense.
That bland enough for ya?
Pete the Streak - January 21, 2012
He hurts but taking Armani with him will hurt worse.
VinnyV11 - January 20, 2012
You think Armani committing would have happened by now
since those two are so close.
Artiefufkin10 - January 20, 2012
I agree. I was surprised they weren’t simultaneous.
VinnyV11 - January 20, 2012
Makes sense...
After all his position coach is no longer at the school…oh wait. No well wishes from me, I figured he wanted to be the next Posluzny/Lee/Bowman/Connor/Etc/Etc, whatever, his loss.
eternalpessimist - January 20, 2012
My understanding
He already thought he had tackling, pursuit and diagnosing plays down. The one part of his game that was lacking? You guessed it: pile jumping. Meyer promised private lessons with Laurenitis. How do you compete with that?
kijana's acl - January 20, 2012
Vandy's track record...
is incredible. Yet he’s going to play with FIckell. I don’t get it.
Artiefufkin10 - January 20, 2012
I can't stress this enough:
WorldBFat - January 20, 2012
You continue to develop your repertoire as my favorite poster.
psume06 - January 20, 2012 via mobile
Despite the fact that Vandy stayed...
He and Armani were very close with their recruiter, Bill Kenney. The lack of a HC was OK with these guys, as long as they were in touch with Kenney. Once BOB came in and got rid of Bill, it was just a matter of time.
Armani not committing to OSU with Cam means, IMO, he’s headed to Ann Arbor or State College. Could still end up in Columbus, but I’d bet it’s a UM/PSU battle. Immediate playing time available at PSU, which has to be enticing.
Jeff Junstrom - January 20, 2012
Good point...
You gotta think though, he’s going to spend the most amount of time with his position coach.
Whatever, I don’t get the mindset of 17/18 yos. Best of luck to Cam until he plays the Lions.
With BOB’s recruiting approach, I’m definitely looking forward to how he does thing with a full year under his belt.
Artiefufkin10 - January 20, 2012
It might be too good to ever be true..
but I would love If Armani Reeves ended up at PSU, and we beat down OSU’s defense for the next 4 years with BOB’s high-powered new offense.
As if that wouldn’t be sweet enough, Camren Williams would hear about his poor decision via Reeves on a daily basis after he leaves Ohio State (notice how I didn’t say graduating).
Cadderly18 - January 20, 2012
Love this comment from Wartman
Hard_Hitz_Ny Nyeem Wartman
The #PSU Nation lost a true solider, best of luck @CamrenWilliams5 it’s gonna b fine whippin OSU’s ass the next 4 years and playin against u
Ben16 - January 20, 2012
And I have a new favorite recruit
Just like that.
kijana's acl - January 20, 2012
This from Silas
MomentOfSilas25 Si Redd
De-Commitments happen all the time guys.. let the kid live. I definitely unfollowed him tho ha
Ben16 - January 20, 2012
That's my feeling as well
Though I hope Redd runs him over at least once in his remaining time at PSU.
kijana's acl - January 20, 2012
I feel the same way. He made his choice but don’t trash talk the kid. That said, I hope he plays like crap against PSU.
Ben16 - January 20, 2012
Ditto.
DrewRusse - January 20, 2012
I'm sold
psume06 - January 20, 2012 via mobile
update
Well then. Apparently BOB and JT see things differently. Here’s wishing JT all the best, and thanks for pushing me to places I never thought I could go. I’ve been a real backer of BOB’s hiring….but there is now a real sense of urgency in getting this ship ready to sail. Winter conditioning is EXTREMELY important. Someone needs to get a handle on these fellas up in Holuba Hall and the weightroom ASAP.
hbeach08 - January 20, 2012
So since you "might" know some things here
In your expert opinion, what is the best type of conditioning for football? From the write up that you had, it seemed to me that HIT was good, yet somewhat flawed. I relaly don’t know anything about this, I was a swimmer and did strength conditioning, didn’t want big muscles just strong lean muslces. I am completely out of my element in that regard.
AriesGD - January 20, 2012
I think multiple programs can work. And they do.
I really don’t have a certain preference.
hbeach08 - January 20, 2012
No Doubt.....
I know a lot of people put stock in building the beach muscles…..but those aren’t the muscles that get it done on the FB field. I think HIT got a bad rap from a lot of PSU commentators but PSU is not the lone college program using it. Hbeach can speak more to this but it always seemed to me that JVP never got the fact that big OL are (IMO) needed for the wear and tear of Big 10 play. Seems like PSU teams were built more to play agaisnt SEC schools. Also know HBeach has been a big defender of the BOB hire but what about Roof? I have a couple amigos who played for this guy at Duke and they are astounder he is now the DC at Penn State. Seems like a huge joke Vandy and LJ were passed over for this guy.
pic15 - January 20, 2012
yeah, my Roof knowledge is limited to what I've read the last ten days
we’ll see I guess
hbeach08 - January 20, 2012
JT had a funny quote
“the only time you bench press on the field is pushing yourself up off the ground”
Not really…but kinda
hbeach08 - January 20, 2012
Just because Roof wasn't a good HC doesn't mean he can't be a good coordinator
Lots of examples of that – Dan Henning, Norv Turner (apparently), etc.
reedjohnmiller - January 21, 2012 via mobile
thank you sir
Thanks for all of your insight on this…both on a psu level and from a professional level as a high school coach….I think I finally know who you are now…there’s one way I’d know for sure but don’t wanna state it here lol
va2pennstate - January 20, 2012 via iPhone app
pffft
Paige figured it our a long time ago!
letsgopsu - January 20, 2012
It's cool
I don’t mind…I just prefer not to spew my name all over the interwebs
hbeach08 - January 20, 2012
may I
Email you my question so it doesn’t go all over the site?
va2pennstate - January 21, 2012 via iPhone app
sure
hbeach08 - January 21, 2012
Relax . . .
We’re hiring Joe Weider. Our guys will be swinging Indian Clubs before the month is out.
SubLime - January 20, 2012
Winter conditioning is what struck me on this as well
I expected JT would be kept around through the spring to keep the workouts going. Anybody have any tweedle-do info from the players re. the winter conditioning?
Frank O'Brien - January 20, 2012
also.....
portions of the post obviously were no longer relevant, so it may seem a bit fractured.
hbeach08 - January 20, 2012
How did you train when you were playing pro ball?
More Olympic style lifts?
Did you think it made a difference?
Artiefufkin10 - January 20, 2012
well, training for the pro day or combine
is a lot of bench press work, obviously.
The redskins at the time employed one of JT;‘s prfessional mentors…can’t recall his name (I wasn’t there as long as I hoped :) )….so they used a lot of HIT…but guys have a lot of free reign to do what style they like. The pros are expected to be in shape. It’s their job…it’s a much different dynamic, there are no JT’s in the NFL.
hbeach08 - January 20, 2012
Did all the players use HIT - or just the linemen?
GoodOleDays - January 20, 2012
all
hbeach08 - January 20, 2012
The fun part is
you can find other strength programs fairly easily through the googles. LSU, for instance, uses 9 core exercises (some main, like bench, squat, and clean, some supplemental), but they’re all, big, heavy-weight lifts. Quite the opposite of what we’re used to.
Truck O'Saurus - January 20, 2012 via Android app
I really doubt you've spent a whole lot of time in the weightroom
Internet warrior…
NuclearLion - January 20, 2012
Oh, I haven't
I just enjoy reading about them online. Wouldn’t expect you to have any valuable input on this subject, though.
Truck O'Saurus - January 20, 2012 via Android app
is that in between your forays into mild porn?
NuclearLion - January 20, 2012
I see I've been bested
Back to the bridge with me…
Truck O'Saurus - January 20, 2012 via Android app
your input could be quite valuable in this online community
especially if you stop fucking with me young man.
NuclearLion - January 20, 2012
dude, what the fuck's your problem?
hbeach08 - January 20, 2012
I'm thinking they know each other?
If not, what a collosal dick.
PSUinBOSSton - January 20, 2012
They do know eachother
But Nuclear Lion is also a collosal dick (disclaimer: I know him too)
Nittany_Ryan - January 20, 2012
there you go, ruining my reputation.
I haven’t had the opportunity to put up such fancy fanposts yet, unlike you.
NuclearLion - January 20, 2012
lol
truck o’saurus is a friend of mine from school who started trolling me when i started contributing.
ain’t a thang. i was a little worried if i was a dick to him i might get that reaction. looks like it ended up happening.
NuclearLion - January 20, 2012
aha
carry on then….ball busting is a pastime of mine
hbeach08 - January 20, 2012
LOL
you guys keep it up and Junny will close the comments
/ducks for cover
Artiefufkin10 - January 20, 2012
“Friend” seems to be a bit generous here.
ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS TALK ABOUT WEIGHTLIFTING, DAMMIT.
Truck O'Saurus - January 20, 2012 via Android app
aw, cupcakes, don't be sore
what about weightlifting do you want to talk about? what’s your deadlift up to these days?
NuclearLion - January 20, 2012
you guys want us to leave you alone so you two can make out?
…not that there’s anything wrong with that…
Why did I Graduate? - January 20, 2012
It's getting up there
Thanks to Truck O’Saurus’s patented deer-spray-and-beer olympic training program, I’m on track to be the strongest female in America!
If only I was a girl…
Truck O'Saurus - January 20, 2012 via Android app
Bet I could still take you on
And win!
Paige2PSU - January 20, 2012 via iPhone app
How much deer spray do you take?
Truck O'Saurus - January 20, 2012 via Android app
Nada, zip, zilch.
I don’t need steroids! First rule of BSD: don’t piss off a BSDiva. Ok, maybe that’s not the first rule, but it’s up there!
Paige2PSU - January 20, 2012 via iPhone app
Seems reasonable to err
on the side of caution when dealing with the BSDivas.
PSU_Lions_84 - January 21, 2012
HIT is the program...
responsible for conditioning the team that has handed LSU its only non-conference loss in the Miles era.
Esteban d' Amur - January 20, 2012
Didn't you hear
that the win against LSU does not count because of the bad field conditions???
Ben16 - January 20, 2012
it was muddy. doesn't count. they only play on turf in the SEC
tlrpsu - January 20, 2012
It really was not fair
Since it was only muddy under the LSU players’ feet.
kijana's acl - January 20, 2012
Now THAT is the kind of selective memory SEC fans love
Nittany_Ryan - January 20, 2012
yup
People forget that PSU players got to put down fresh turf under their cleats.
Ben16 - January 20, 2012
I like endurance . . .
But you also have to game plan with the idea of winning in the fourth quarter, and then resist the temptation to waiver from that plan.
SubLime - January 20, 2012
Here is the University of Florida's program under Mickey Mariotti
who is now running tOSU’s program
http://www.hawgtuff.net/FloridaStrengthManual.pdf
carolinaeasy - January 20, 2012
The money quote
Interesting development, JT being let go. I’d have to guess, going off what I’ve seen and heard from BOB so far, that he’s got a substitute immediately in mind….well, now that I type that, I could also see him being organized enough to institute an operational/procedural strength-training program using his existing coaching staff and without having a dedicated position-holder.
Basically, I’ve said nothing. But that quote remains awesome.
jtothep - January 20, 2012
don't think that can happen
you got to have a S&C guy for contact in the offseason. ass’t coaches can’t do it per NCAA rules
hbeach08 - January 20, 2012
hhmmm.
And now we have a new S&T coach.
So it was said. Unto we.
jtothep - January 21, 2012
hold up...
Junny played football?
Why did I Graduate? - January 20, 2012
oops
didn’t read the addendum. I’m dum.
Why did I Graduate? - January 20, 2012
Actually, I did one summer of organized ball.
7th grade, best tight end that peewee league saw.
Jeff Junstrom - January 20, 2012
You must love the BOB hire
you know, as a former TE.
Tailgate Shogun - January 20, 2012
I've got a few years of eligibility left.
At this right, there might be a spot for me in this class.
Jeff Junstrom - January 20, 2012
right = rate
Jeff Junstrom - January 20, 2012
I told my brother he should walk on as a kicker.
Played goalie in soccer for a long time, has a decent leg. Once you get your foot in the door, slip ol’ Fera a bottle of Cruzan and you’re the starter in no time.
mvrck - January 20, 2012
oh JV memories...
best game of my life, put on that Garnet Valley Jaguar uniform and kicked the snot out of those Unionville pansies… 3 sacks in one half, then turned back into my regular moderately athletic but non football talented self…
Why did I Graduate? - January 20, 2012
nice
I musta been playing Varsity that week
:)
hbeach08 - January 20, 2012
hahaah
tlrpsu - January 20, 2012
funny funny...
You’re lucky you didn’t have to face a pash rush phenom like me…
But yea, you were bout 10 years before me…
Dog soldiers?
Why did I Graduate? - January 20, 2012 via iPhone app
The jags were a small school back then
That district blew up from what I gather.
hbeach08 - January 20, 2012
Don't get the dog soldier reference
hbeach08 - January 20, 2012
That's hitting pretty close to home
The first year Unionville had a football team in 1974 the student body (all 400 of us) cut the corn fields down by hand to make room for the bleacher (singular), and that wasn’t no pansy work! Unfortunately seniors weren’t eligible for the new team for obvious reasons so us soccer players just laughed watching this new team cheat and use their hands to move the ball. It was UGLY, but great memories. Garnet Valley…that’s accredited now huh?
PSUMarine78 - January 21, 2012
Hey, 78, here is a link to the PSU faculty reaction:
It’s on ESPiN — sorry!
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/7480766/penn-state-faculty-council-members-unhappy-independent-investigation-sexual-abuse-allegations
PSU_Lions_84 - January 21, 2012
Roger, thanks
PSUMarine78 - January 21, 2012
I'm a product of your labors
Unionville 95
hbeach08 - January 21, 2012
I should have been smart enough to figure that out
Us Cornfield High (as we were known then) folks took alot of pride in your success, and congrats on that success at all levels. 40th UHS reunion is in two years (seems impossible) and hope to spend a little time re-visiting the area—-grew up in Chadds Ford.
PSUMarine78 - January 22, 2012
loved coach Ricci (sp?) by the way
hbeach08 - January 20, 2012
Ricci sp correct
I work with his brother Peej. Great guy as well.
PSUROLLS - January 20, 2012
good guy...
Why did I Graduate? - January 20, 2012 via iPhone app
Cool....tell him i said hi.
Him and my coach were (are) pals.
hbeach08 - January 20, 2012
Who cares that we lost Cam
We could have a bunch of 2 star LB’s, we have Vandy, I’m not worried
ICEICETHATGUY13 - January 20, 2012
He's not that good, anyway
He’s overrated. His reactions are slow. He doesn’t hustle. He’s got a lot to learn and he will have to undergo an attitude change before he sees the field at OSU. I think Meyer is over-recruiting like they do in the SEC so as to keep talent away from other teams. How many of our recruits does he have now? I also think other teams are telling our recruits that we will be subjected to NCAA penalties for the Sandusky affair.
uforabin - January 20, 2012
Nice
Rec’d for a substantial level of Haterade.
I hope you’re right (I think)
hbeach08 - January 20, 2012
Looks like Skyler is visiting Florida
Not sure if that means his dad is looking South instead of West to coach. But not good either way. To lose him and Williams would be tough.
Any news on how the visits are going today?
GMac14 - January 20, 2012
Sekrah (not sure why I still follow this guy) is saying that the staff asked him to play Safety so that is why he is reopening his recruitment. I’m not sure why this would be the case but if they dont think he’s all that great of a starting QB maybe we aren’t losing much…
phanatic's phloozies - January 20, 2012
Asking a 4 star QB recruit to switch positions?
Something sounds fishy there. You realized Sekrah also said Les Miles would be coaching in happy valley, right?
ppfcpp - January 20, 2012
Correction, 3 star.
Still sounds unlikely to me.
ppfcpp - January 20, 2012
Almost all of his other offers were for him to play safety.
And considering all of the QBs that BOB is going after… its definitely possible.
The Heel - January 21, 2012
Watch the film...
Watch his highlight video. He’s a better safety than a quarterback. He’d be a 4 or 5 star safety prospect if he wanted to play there. Makes perfect sense to me.
LionInTheWeeds - January 21, 2012
Interesting
I stand corrected, and was completely unaware of the interest in him at safety. Admittedly, I don’t follow recruiting that closely.It just seemed odd to me to switch a three star QB recruit to another position. But if that’s the case, it makes sense.
ppfcpp - January 21, 2012
Did Brett Brackett have stars?
He was a HS QB.
PSU_Lions_84 - January 21, 2012
Excellent job by the guest contributor
I’m glad you did not kick Joe in his gigantic testicles.
Maybe we can just buy some P90X and Insanity CD’s, with a some Yoga from Rodney Yee thrown in for R&R?
letsgopsu - January 20, 2012
There's 2 CrossFit gyms in SC
Just send them all there!
TheWrathofQBEagles - January 20, 2012
i was looking for an S&C coach like Richard Simmons.
A little rockin to the oldies anyone?
smh244 - January 21, 2012
as long as he doesn't change the uniforms
WorldBFat - January 21, 2012
Just saw that South Carolina's strength coach resigned and is purported to be headed to PSU.
Craig Fitzgerald is his name….
icavalera - January 20, 2012
I read some stuff on South Carolina's board and they dont seem too happy about this.
Which I take as… good.
The Heel - January 21, 2012
New SC Craig Fitzgerald
has Philly roots and knows John Butler.
I like that these guys from around the country are coming back to PA. Hopefully they all want to be a part of something special
Artiefufkin10 - January 20, 2012
Sounds good
Coached S&C at Harvard and Maryland.
reedjohnmiller - January 20, 2012 via mobile
Link to Craig Fitzgerald video.
CvilleLion - January 20, 2012
Sweet
Our players will be really good at breaking shit with sledge hammers
Artiefufkin10 - January 20, 2012 via mobile
Try doing a sledgehammer Tabata...awesome
SweepTheLeg - January 20, 2012
Love the big tire
Does he also do the keg toss?
reedjohnmiller - January 20, 2012 via mobile
As the Resident Gamecock, I guess this makes me the expert on Mr. Fitzgerald...
I make no qualms about my first allegiance being to my undergraduate institution, so you’ll understand how lucky Penn State is when I say that I am extremely disappointed to see Coach Fitz leave USC.
This guy has completely revamped South Carolina’s S&C program, and he is a HUGE reason that we’re now turning in double-digit win seasons and considered a legitimate force in the SEC and. He’s an incredible strength coach, an even better motivator and has a great deal of passion for both football and the S&C program.
I cannot stress this enough: Penn State’s players became exponentially better today…EXPONENTIALLY.
Uhaul - January 20, 2012
Cool
I love JT. But there’s nothing wrong with new blood.
hbeach08 - January 20, 2012
Gamecock fans are pretty cool.
I jumped on their boards while Marcus Lattimore was in play, and they treated me right.
Only, SC people can’t drive for crap for some reason. Here in NC, when I see a bone-headed move, it’s 50-50 the car plates are Georgia or SC. WT—????
PSU_Lions_84 - January 21, 2012
Isnt "john thomas"
British slang for a pee-pee?
swiggy04 - January 20, 2012 via Android app
Yup
Here is the best source for that to.
Ladies and Gentleman, I give you Monty Python
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGRPFUYUUdQ
AriesGD - January 20, 2012
Rec for Monty Python ref!
PSU_Lions_84 - January 21, 2012
The way I saw it
JT And the HIT were fine — if we ran the kind of offense that fit the S&C system. You want lean and mean players who can run circles around those fatties in the 4th quarter? Great, I’m all for it, let’s run Oregon’s offense — let’s go no huddle. But when it’s 4th and 1 in the 2nd quarter, don’t expect to blow Iowa off the line with the FB dive.
If the HIT program works the way I understand it, we simply applied it wrong. If we had run a hurry up offense and kept a fast tempo, maybe we’d all be singing it’s praises. Imagine if Oregon and Wisconsin switched S&C coaches how bad that would turn out. I think that’s kind of what happened to us.
millzners - January 20, 2012
Great post
SweepTheLeg - January 20, 2012
That doesn't really make sense to me.
Oregon’s offense starts outscoring you right away in the first quarter. It’s not about getting the defense tired, it’s about catching the defense with the wrong personnel and off guard. On the other hand, a run heavy offense relies on wearing down the defense and doing their damage in the second half, especially the 4th quarter.
PSUinBOSSton - January 20, 2012
I think your a bit wrong
I think Oregon’s offense runs at such a high pace, it tires out the big guys along the line, which then opens up more holes for the running attack. They hit go at like 30 seconds remaining on the play clock. That up tempo does tire out the offense who is used to a slow pace attack, like snap the ball with 5 seconds left on game clock, not 30.
Multiple that what, 60 times during the game, and see the results.
AriesGD - January 20, 2012
Well,
in the past two years, they have scored more points in the first half. Based on my quick count anyway.
And catching the defense with the wrong personnel and off guard doesn’t necessarily require you to snap the ball right away, just to get to the line and prevent them from substitutions and huddling.
PSUinBOSSton - January 21, 2012
Great point(s)
hbeach08 - January 20, 2012
Aww man!
I wanted to know who this person was. Oh well.
Thanks for the input, random person!
misdreavus79 - January 20, 2012
It's not a big deal.
I was #51 in the late 90’s
hbeach08 - January 20, 2012
Man that's cheating.
I had to dig through XFL rosters to figure it out. You’re making it too easy.
jesse. - January 21, 2012
there was a letterman's site
that listed current locations for each one… add that to his name and it was fairly easy…
jaytay13 - January 21, 2012
I think the annual media guide has hometowns and professions of all lettermen
hbeach08 - January 21, 2012
I thought part of the reason Joe like HIT was that it doesn't take as much time
as an Olympic style training system? It seems like doing each exercise once to failure takes less time than doing 3 or 5 sets of each with a bunch of rest in between. Will players now have to spend more time conditioning? Are there NCAA limits on that? Just curious.
PSUEnrg02 - January 21, 2012
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