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Penn State Recruiting Class of 2012 Signing Day Primer: Only One Week Remaining

Though not his first full class, Bill O'Brien will welcome 20 or so new Nittany Lions to the family, officially, next Wednesday. (AP Photo/Gene J. Puskar)

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Though not his first full class, Bill O'Brien will welcome 20 or so new Nittany Lions to the family, officially, next Wednesday. (AP Photo/Gene J. Puskar)

Only seven days left in the Class of 2012 recruiting period, which culminates on February 1 with National Letter of Intent Day, commonly referred to as Signing Day, the first day that high school seniors can officially state their intent to play college football with a certain school. Until then, everything is verbal and non-binding; once ink meets paper and paper meets fax (one of the last remaining vestiges of that godforsaken machine), a contract is formed with certain requirements and expectations.

At Penn State, Signing Day typically comes and goes with little fanfare. The Joe Paterno Era Style of Recruiting was to get the class finished early and concentrate on the actual football. While there has been notable last-minute excitement in the past (see Henne, Chad; Shaw, Michael), for the most part, Penn State fans get to watch everyone else squirm as "results" come in for the higher profile players.

Those high profile players will be covered slightly in next week's open Signing Day thread. Today we take a look at the Class of 2012: who's in, who's out, what's left, and what are the overall impression.

Star-divide

Who's In - The Future Penn State Nittany Lions

As of this morning, Penn State is sitting tight with 19 commitments, including will-he-or-wont-he PA QB Skyler Mornhinweg. Until we hear word otherwise, Mornhinweg is in. The commits, by commit date:

First Last Pos. Class Commit Date
Anthony Stanko OL FR 3/19/2011
Brent Wilkerson TE FR 3/26/2011
Jesse James TE FR 3/28/2011
Brian Gaia DL FR 5/9/2011
Derek Dowrey DT FR 6/25/2011
Austin Johnson DT FR 6/25/2011
Nyeem Wartman LB FR 7/9/2011
Skyler Mornhinweg QB FR 7/19/2011
Jake Kiley DB FR 7/27/2011
Eugene Lewis WR FR 8/10/2011
Malik Golden WR FR 8/24/2011
Jamil Pollard DL FR 12/29/2011
Jordan Lucas DB FR 1/16/2012
Akeel Lynch RB FR 1/22/2012
DaQuan Davis CB FR 1/22/2012
Trevor Williams WR FR 1/22/2012
Jonathan Warner WR FR 1/22/2012
Steven Bench QB FR 1/24/2012
Wendy Laurent OL FR 1/24/2012

By position, the commitments break down as follows: QB - 2, RB - 1, WR - 4 (Malik Golden is being looked at here by the Penn State staff, but a switch to DB is entirely possible), TE - 2, OL - 2, DL - 4, LB - 1, DB - 3. Certain positions have been stocked well (WR, DL), but there are still needs in this class. Another offensive lineman would be a plus, as well as at least one more defensive back. A second running back would be nice, but unlikely. With only Derek Moye leaving the receiving corps, there is a good possibility that at least one of the four wide receivers in the class will move to the secondary.

Who's Left - The Prospects, With A Week To Go

As you can imagine, the vast majority of recruits have given their verbal commitment to play college football by now, including our own 19 commitments above. However, not everyone is as sure as those players, and some need time to make their final decision. This choice, after all, will affect the rest of their lives. But, as stated above, Penn State typically doesn't end with too much fanfare, so the remaining prospect list isn't too long. However, keep an on the following:

First Last Pos. Comment
Demetrious Cox DB PSU/OSU battle - 50/50; highest target
Carnell Boyd WR Current Akron commit, probable flip
Evan Schwann DE No offer…yet; will commit on the spot
Jordan Moore DB From Georgia with SEC offers
Kenderius Whitehead DL Teammate of Boyd, Moore; NC State commit
Beau Hankins LB From Alabama, unlikely commit

Of these, there are some almost-certainties and some developments to watch. I'd be truly shocked if Schwann did not end up as a part of this class. Schwann will likely commit on the spot once he finally receives his offer.

Boyd, Moore, Whitehead and Hankins are all southern offers, the first three being high school teammates. Their offers alone represent a breath of fresh air from this staff, who seem intent on making southern recruiting a priority. Of these four, I'll guess that two end up at Penn State. Boyd is a likely candidate, while the other two are slightly higher in terms of stars/offers. Moore has offers from a lot of southern schools, while Whitehead is a current NC State commit. Hankins likely won't be on campus, but anything is possible.

Finally, there's Demetrious Cox. He is going to be the prize recruit at the end of this class, and will likely take this thing down to the wire. Ohio State, Michigan State, Wisconsin and Pitt are all making runs at the talented western PA defensive back that hails from the same high school as Penn State's last down-to-the-wire recruit. The class's success will not be made or lost with Cox, but a commitment from him will go a long way to keeping this a decent-to-solid class in a year that could have ended a lot worse.

How Many More - Crunching the Numbers; Or On Scholarships and Oversigning

Some quick math and explanations: By our count, as of today, Penn State football has 65 scholarship players on the roster, not including fifth-year senior Brandon Beachum, who has reportedly left the team.

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Adding the 19 Class of 2012 commits from above, and the current scholarship number sits at 84. And here is where it gets interesting. Despite being one of the more vocal critics of oversigning, the Big Ten conference actually allows the practice, within moderation. Big Ten schools are allowed to sign an additional three extra players than their targeted class, which means that on February 1, the scholarship list can actually total 88.

This means that Penn State has room for four more commitments, provided all 19 commitments stand. Two of the prospects above will likely end up at Penn State, which leaves two more spots. If Cox takes one, that leave a final opening for a Class of 2012 commit.

That doesn't necessarily mean they must all be used, though. One or two scholarships going unused by a school is nothing new, and the normal procedure if it happens is to reward a hard working junior or senior with a free ride for a year. It's happened at Penn State before, and I wouldn't be surprised if it happened this year. This would be a one year deal, and the scholarship would be then thrown back into the pool to be used toward the Class of 2013, which at first glance, looks like it will be on the small side, with only 15 seniors on the 2012 roster.

Who's Out - The Once and Former Nittany Lions

Before we leave, we pay tribute to those we once cared for, but who have moved on to greener pastures. In case you've been under a rock for the past three months, the Penn State recruiting class has seen it's share of bumps along the way. The following players were, at one time, committed to Penn State, but have since parted ways. The former commitments, with their new school of choice:

First Last New School
Jarron Jones Notre Dame
Joey O'Connor Ohio State
Tommy Schutt Ohio State
Cam Williams Ohio State
Armani Reeves OSU/Michigan
J.P. Holtz Pitt/MSU
J.J. Denman Rutgers

Once named the new head coach, Urban Meyer and Ohio State went to town on our committed players, though the major scandal didn't help matters. It's tough to hold any sort of grudge against these kids, as they are only trying to make the best decision for themselves. But it's similarly difficult to look at that list and think "What if..." Maybe they'll turn out to be busts, but there is some solid talent on that board, players that the Nittany Lions will eventually see on the playing field.

(As for the two uncommitted prospects on that board, my guess is: Reeves to Michigan, Holtz to Pitt.)

Class of 2012 Analysis

Where do you even begin to discuss this class? On November 1, 2011, the Class of 2012 was shaping up to be one of the best in recent history, and Penn State was at the top of many highly rated recruits short lists. After that, things fell apart. As you can see above, there was a four month pause between commitments while the Penn State name and reputation came crashing down. Additionally, a head coach was fired and a new one wasn't named for two months, a period of uncertainty that didn't do any favors to the recruiting efforts.

From a pure stars/offers standpoint, this class is mediocre at best. It's going to be ranked somewhere in the 30-40 range by the services, and that's being kind. At the time of this post, the current rankings are: 247Sports (34), Scout (37), and Rivals (44). Adding a couple more commitments, especially Cox, will nudge them up, but in a pure numbers perspective, this class isn't anything to write home about.

However, we all know that numbers aren't everything. Could this class end up being mediocre, as targeted by the services? Yes, and history tells us with relative certainty that some of these players will never see meaningful time at Penn State. But could there be a Daryll Clark, Deon Butler, or some other diamond in the rough? Yes, and that's what fans are hoping for.

Tune back in next Wednesday (and everyday, for that matter) to see how this class ends, officially. The mothership has you covered, as well. As per usual, we'll have an open thread going to watch the other top players make their choices. And let's hope that there aren't any big surprises for Penn State...unless of course some of those former commitments want to rejoin the class. In that case, I think we can make an exception.

UPDATE ONE - Geographic Assignments

I don’t think there is any doubting that LJSr. will continue to blanket the VA/MD/DC area with his man hugs. But what about everyone else. A member of 247Sports with a good deal of knowledge on Penn State recruiting and a solid reputation for quality recruiting information posted the following predictions, based on the staff’s previous responsibilities, reprinted with his express permission:

Godsey: FL
Hixon: FL
Roof: GA, FL, AL
London: Mid Atlantic
Strollo: New England
MacWhorter: Probably won’t recruit a lot, but FL and GA
LJ: MD, VA
Vandy: MI, IL, IN, OH
Butler: SC

I tend to agree with a good deal of this. Some of it will change as we see which recruits are talking to which coaches, but we know a lot of this is true already. Roof is going to be our Georgia man, while BOB has made it clear he wants multiple coaches in Florida.

Noticeably absent are two core states. New Jersey is difficult, as we’ve never done too much damage there. Though talent levels aren’t ever extremely high, it would be nice to be able to establish some good ties to the area. John Strollo is from NJ, but Vanderlinden and Butler have each recruited there as well.

The other state is Pennsylvania. BOB has stated that each coach will have an area of PA to recruit, but splitting PA into 10 distinct areas seems silly, so it’s likely that BOB meant the state will be split up into sections, and coaches assigned. Who takes those sections is still a guess. You’ll notice above that Vandy is a good choice to take over the bulk of the midwest, so assigning him western PA makes a good deal of sense.

UPDATE TWO - Programming Note

A Signing Day podcast is set to be recorded this weekend. Look for it early next week, before the Signing Day festivities. The podcast will feature Penn State, Ohio State, and Michigan bloggers that cover their respective teams recruiting discussing the Class of '12, how it will finish, and what to look for in the Class of '13.

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Comments

Finally!

I’m allowed to post on here! I’ve been enjoying the threads…hopefully I’m not a complete idiot poster.

Welcome, good sir.
WIth This Tooth Towel We Stand Zack The Deer!

Down Down, Down Down!

Is BOB on the road today?

Do we know who he is going to see this week?

Yes, he's out today.

I’ve heard he’s headed to DC, but I’m not sure who is there. You’d think his first stop would be to Jeannette, PA. I’ve also heard he has to be back in Foxboro by next Wednesday, so it’ll be close.

Next Wednesday?

As in a week from today? That will be awkward since the team is leaving for Indy Sunday.

That's what I meant.

But yes, next Wednesday. Honestly, I don’t know how he’s been splitting time, but it’s got to be torture on his sleep patterns.

Today is the last day off.

Super Bowl practices start tomorrow morning in Foxboro, continue through Sat, and then the team leaves for Indy Sunday. I can’t imagine he is on the road more than today and getting back tomorrow.

Also,

I share your curiousity on Cox. Maybe there is some other surprise in the works that we never heard? He’s about to pull Diggs with an assist from LJ?

Doubt it, as well as Ronald Darby before anyone mentions him.

Maybe some ‘13 prospects if BOB thinks the ’12 class is sewn up or the remaining targets are sufficiently recruited. I just don’t know.

So,

you haven’t got your BOBjack installed yet?

Is he on FlightAware?
Good question.

Don’t we have a resident expert commenter here? Works in aviation or something? Can he get BOB an assigned tracking number?

Getting a new BPS for my birthday.

Ya know – BOB Positioning System.

Gonna be all the rage, yo.

Sounds like

The little lady better watch out.

I see what you did there.
Still thinking out loud here,

what are the chances of another run at Severin? Now that we have his teammate in the fold maybe he has been doing some work on him.

They've already hired his replacement

Which I’m sure helps.

DC huh?

that’s where Eddie Goldman lives

And Marion Berry!
You once shaved Marion Berry's image into your chest hair didn't you?
Does it count as only once if you keep

using the razor to maintain the image? Or is each subsequent shaving another time? That could impact whether he “once” shaved Marion’s image.

"Dang Blade set me up!"
I really did the heart thing once, but this really has me thinking...

I wonder how complex a design I could shave. I have the thick, dark chest hair of a Mediterranean man. If I can shave Marion Barry so that he is recognizable, I should.

while tucking

don’t forget the tucking

If I pulled off a Marion Barry chest shave, I'd be too engorged to tuck.
Dont give urban ideas!

I am going to be furious if I see a Brenneman portrait on urb’z chest next year

I wouldn't get my hopes up that he's visiting a big 2012 name.

And the report could have been wrong (imagine that). I think Cox, and maybe Morgan now, are the only two names that we’ll keep an eye on for the last week. The rest of the class should be relatively low fanfare.

So you are guaranteeing a huge splashy signing

next Wednesday! Sweet!

Meh.

That’s the best way to describe this class. The only thing really keeping me moderately positive is the hope that the new staff has more skill in player development than that of the outgoing group.

We all knew this class was going to be a little rough. That said though, I like BOB’s philosophy and am looking forward to seeing what he and his staff can do with their first full class in 2013.

My twitters say

Wayne Morgan (NY) 4 star (QB/DB) recruit may flip to penn state currently choosing between Syracuse and UConn

Wayne Morgan is a new development.

He’s a former UM silent verbal, who lost his spot when the class filled up/he was passed by other targets. Whether he’s in serious contention this late in the game is anyone’s guess, but he could be a replacement for Reeves or Cox (likely Cox in that scenario, as both Morgan and Cox project as safeties).

That would be nice

but hasnt there been some concern over his maturity?

Only that he's TOO MATURE!

OOOOH WAH AH AH AH!

Concern I've seen is actually around his play.

Some think he’s not that great of a DB and is rated too highly in the state of NY.

silent verbal....

How is one silently verbal?

Tells the staff that he's in, but prolongs publicly for whatever reason.

I find them to be stupid, but apparently they exist. Some have said that Noah Spence was a silent PSU verbal after Cam Williams started recruiting him. Obviously you can see how binding any of this is before Signing Day.

I'm still kinda pissed

That the ‘oral commitment’ thing didn’t take hold.

article found on this

Link

Yea, that's the article that started the day's infatuation with Morgan.
Is what It Is

This class is what it is and hopefully the players in this class turn out to be great players. We have enough underclassman too stay a solid football team. The coaches foucus should be on next years class. Adam Breneman seems to be ours to lose and if they let him go to another school it will be all on them. Start out strng and our class next year will be incredible!

Just to be safe

I hope the Patriot’s tight ends catch 3 or 4 touchdown passes in the SB.

Looking at the roster above...

The team depth is definitely shallow at CB and S… Cox and Morgan would be nice, needed additions… plus switching 1 from WR or ATH to DB is probably in order.

This class doesnt need to be world beaters

I think we should have enough residual talent in the last few recruiting years that this class just needs to have a few leaders. Guys who, when they are seniors, can take the reins and lead this team full of hopefully star studded recruits the new staff is going to bring in in the future.

You can survive one mediocre class. Its when you follow it up with bad classes that you get into trouble.

The fact that these guys have stuck with us throughout our recent issues shows me no evidence that they cant be high character leaders in the future.

To be fair, the 2011 class was mediocre as well.

247Sports (33rd), Scout (34th), Rivals (35th). BOB needs to hit 2013 hard, and it needs to be a big one.

Last year is a bit misleading in terms of rankings, in my opinion.

Last year’s class was top 25 in average stars. The small class size hurt the rankings.

However, that does highlight just how mediocre this year’s class is turning out, and the negative impact it could have. With many more players we are going to rank lower even lower. If you took the last two years and average out the number of players and average stars, you could argue that a poor recruiting year this year has turned into a negative two-year impact. That alone won’t knock the program down talent wise, but one more sub-par year and we could be in for a short BOB-tenure.

Yeah last year we had a really high average level of recruit.

We just had very few scholarships to go around. I’m a bit more concerned about this year, but really, I don’t see too many “gambles” in this class. These are through and through a bunch of guys that look like they can all be solid contributors.

Average stars

much more important than total points IMO.

More important than that is the ability to identify and develop talent that will work for the system in place, for the most part.

Not sure about "knocking the program down"

As a post some months ago detailed – the old coaching staff didn’t exactly coach players up to their potential or star rankings (generally speaking). So with a new energetic staff, we could be mildly surprised with the transition and product on the field. Staying optimistic

Thanks Junny

For all the work you do putting this together so us bums don’t have to sign up for premium sites.

Much appreciated.

It's actually enjoyable.

And it helps me keep things straight. I still haven’t figured out a solution to keeping track of all of the recruits, visits, opponents visits, etc., but the scholarship/depth chart and commit tracker is pretty handy.

I second that, Artie!
Does it help with Skyler

that his dad wasnt hired for the Oakland position? Or are we just out of it because of our request for him to play safety?

Probably the latter.

And the whole coaching change. It looks like he’s in the running for one of the remaining Florida spots, and VaTech is still in play. Really, you could add his name to the “Watch until the end” list along with Cox and Morgan.

Thanks

Also, can you confirm/deny that BOB is holding an old school game boy in the photo above?

Holy shit

it’s a VHS tape. I wonder how many current recruits even know what that is?

Why am I not surprised

that the most advanced technology in the office he inherited is a VCR?

What about that giant monitor?

I’d be all for that.

it is better than the betamax and HD DVD
DAT Tape
Holy

You brought up the DAT tape. Major props there

I had a roommate.

In 1998 he took DAT tapes from Phish tapers and burned first generation tapes. It seems so trite at the time, but I was able to listen to the whole Summer Tour in 1998 only a day or two after the shows. Now you can download them on your phone walking out of the venue, but then it was a major privilege.

I actually let the guy live in my apartment for free for the summer with the proviso being that I got full access to the DAT player and was allowed to make tapes of anything I wanted for the entire summer.

Hmmm Phish DAT Tapes
It's a prop

He is going to tear the tape apart to impress recruits

Too small

I think it might be an external disk drive. Guess PSU’s not on the cloud.

I think that might be a DVC-PRO or something of that ilk.

It’s actually digital, but still on tape.

Does the new staff want him to play safety?

If that’s the case, they must really see something in Bench that they like or are just looking at a better QB coming in during the 2013 class. Seems like it would be a bit of a gamble with the QB’s currently on the roster to move the highest rated (possible) QB recruit to another position.

I'm not sure where the safety rumor started, but I"ve seen it around.

I do know that there are a couple highly rated QB recruits that the staff are after in ‘13. What I don’t know is the validity of the safety rumor, nor the openness of Mornhinweg to it.

The first person to start the safety rumor

was Sekrah. So, yeah, I’ll go on not believing that.

BOB

looks like he is awkwardly practicing a very poor Welcome speech for the new recruits in front of a mirror. “Welcome…new recruits. Thank you for choosing to come to Penn State. I was afraid that on your way to [pauses to read cue cards] State College that you might commit to Ohio State. [waits for polite laughter]”

I love the depth chart, Junny (in addition to all of the other info, of course).

It has caused all kinds of questions stirring in my mind. I think the one that sticks out for me most is: What does BOB do with our FBs? Building on that, if he likes Zordich’s lead blocking ability and fire, but maybe not his hands etc, but doesn’t plan to keep the FB position long term, is Zwinak a candidate to go Cooley-style-H-Back? If we see some surprise production out of a player in that mold, it would be almost like a new recruiting addition.

I forgot to put in the disclaimer

That the depth chart was obviously not a rigid sheet, especially along the lines. That chart will change a million times before September 1; for today’s purposes, it was simply a placeholder for our 65 scholarships.

Oh, no, I think that's pretty clear.

But it’s fun to mentally shift players around, and even think about how the formations may change. I can see Zwinak moving all around the field and creating mismatches. If BOB is trying to do the same things the Pats offense does now, seems like he could be a good tool for that.

That's a good point and I've wondered if the traditional FB position may be done at PSU

at least while BOB is the head coach. I’m not saying that’s a good or bad thing, but definitely something that needs to be watched more closely.

WHAT!?!?!?!

But I just joined recently and created this username!

Must it now be Run_The_Play_To_The_Best_Player_On_The_Roster_Or_Bust???

That has no ring to it!

I was wondering why Shrive was so low. I remember being excited about him when he came here, but I’m not sure I’ve seen him do anything.

So is BOB using JoePa's office?

That has to be wierd.

I was thinking that myself

I’d ask for another and make it a museum

What's weird is that it's his office now.
UPDATE ONE - Geographic Assignments

Something I didn’t cover in the post because it’s still a work in progress – geographic assignments. I don’t think there is any doubting that LJSr. will continue to blanket the VA/MD/DC area with his man hugs. But what about everyone else. A member of 247Sports with a good deal of knowledge on Penn State recruiting and a solid reputation for quality recruiting information posted the following predictions, based on the staff’s previous responsibilities, reprinted with his express permission:

Godsey: FL
Hixon: FL
Roof: GA, FL, AL
London: Mid Atlantic
Strollo: New England
MacWhorter: Probably won’t recruit a lot, but FL and GA
LJ: MD, VA
Vandy: MI, IL, IN, OH
Butler: SC

I tend to agree with a good deal of this. Some of it will change as we see which recruits are talking to which coaches, but we know a lot of this is true already. Roof is going to be our Georgia man, while BOB has made it clear he wants multiple coaches in Florida.

Noticeably absent are two core states. New Jersey is difficult, as we’ve never done too much damage there. Though talent levels aren’t ever extremely high, it would be nice to be able to establish some good ties to the area. John Strollo is from NJ, but Vanderlinden and Butler have each recruited there as well.

The other state is Pennsylvania. BOB has stated that each coach will have an area of PA to recruit, but splitting PA into 10 distinct areas seems silly, so it’s likely that BOB meant the state will be split up into sections, and coaches assigned. Who takes those sections is still a guess. You’ll notice above that Vandy is a good choice to take over the bulk of the midwest, so assigning him western PA makes a good deal of sense.

I am going to throw up during the first Vandy/Bradley recruiting battle in W PA
It ain't far off, if Bradley goes to Iowa.

Five-star WR Robert Foster from Monaca, PA. Already an impressive offer sheet (though it doesn’t include Iowa yet).

surprised they dont have Butler as the PA guy

isnt he from PA?

Philly, I believe.

Which means he’ll almost certainly get the SEPA beat.

Also 2 other things

Not sure I like Strollo as the sole New England guy, and do we really need 4 guys in Florida? I get we want to recruit there more, but I dont know if dedicated 4 guys outside your traditional area is a great idea.

Yea, this is where I see the first bend in BOB's recruiting rhetoric coming from.

I can see spreading out the southern guys to include Florida AND another state. But any more than two dedicated Florida recruiters seems to wear thin the rest of the resources.

What about Texas?

Maybe McWhorter won’t be recruiting much, but it wouldn’t hurt to have him keeping his eyes open through his Texas contacts.

NJ Difficult ?

For as long as I can remember PS has hit NJ hard. McCreary and Anderson used to hit NJ aggressivly. NJ produces a ton of talent although most of it leaves there is still a ton of talent there. PS has has a great deal of sucess there in the past always grabbing 3,4 or 5 kids from there. I think it would be A HUGE mistake casting aside NJ.

UPDATE TWO - Programming Note

I’ll be recording a podcast this weekend with an OSU and Michigan blogger, each of whom are well versed in their respective recruiting. We’re going to discuss each school, recruiting in general, and what the future holds for three schools, none of which have the same head coach they did two years ago.

Stay tuned, as we hope to have it out early next week, before OMGSIGNINGDAY!

Items likely not discussed

Pissing on graves and blogistani douchery.

Translation

We Want War!

Yesterday I did

And may so again.

But I saw a Zug tweet quoting JoePa’s advice to never get into a pissing match with a skunk, so I’m going with that for today.

What's the deal with Beachum leaving the team?
I think he graduated and it just moving on
Breaking that leg

in mop up duty against Wisconsin pretty much sealed the deal.

BOB needs to put this kid on his radar!

http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1323021

Sounds like the kid is getting a raw deal because his parents don’t have him documented properly for UGA. Not really sure why this is a problem in this instance as Samoa is a US territory. UGA’s loss should be turned into PSU’s gain!

Phew!

Thought that kid had a forehead tattoo there for a split second.

There's more Samoa than just American Samoa.
.

This

is the best and only Girl Scout Cookie they should sell.

Ouch.

Strike One, new guy.

#TeamTagalong

I'm with the new guy on this one.
Frozen Thin Mints belong in that discussion.
I've said it before and I'll say it again

Thin Mints are for the 1%.

I have no idea what that means, but it made me chuckle

Thanks.

The 1% with the best taste?

Team Frozen Thin Mints FTW!

I'm ashamed to admit how many of those I can put away in one sitting
Don't be ashamed

I’m pretty positive I can eat my weight in Thin Mints. Plus, if it weren’t for people like us, how would the girl scouts afford new patches? THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!

I will say it

I do not like thin mints. I know I am probably going to get baned now, but I have to admit it. Don’t like mint in my cookies. Give me them Thanks-A-Lots and I can destroy me some of them. And some Tagalongs.

samoas are the best taste
I love thin mints

and would love to be in the 1%. I would try not to be a d-bag, but I would not turn down the money, or the thin mints.

Box of Samoas...

then a sleeve of Thin Mints to cleanse the palate.

it's almost like they custom created that sleeve

for my portion size.

TWSS

What do they call the really small rubbers?

I'm with the new guy too

My oldest daughter just joined Girl Scouts and I’m trying to stop myself from buying 10,000 boxes of Samoas.

Girl scout cookies are overrated

yeah I said it

/institutes one week ban

it is like the McRib

there is only a craze b/c you can only get them certain times of the year

#Teamtagalong

but let’s be serious here. I love every single Girl Scout Cookie.

Except trefoils. Fuck Trefoils.

False

I run through those like a wood chipper. Very underrated cookie.

Seems like these classes should produce some good starters, and have a lot of those diamond in the rough types

That go to the Big East schools and we wonder how we missed them

Depth is one thing I’d be worried about right now though

The Samoan Archipelago

isn’t. Right?

That pic of BOB

reminds me of Rory McCann (Game of Thrones, Hot Fuzz).

If BOB rolls his chin to the right just a bit

then the next thing out of his mouth could be, “Im Bill S. Preston, Esquire.” or something about San Dimas.

Their high school football rules?
Yes

It does.

Chin

That chin just draws my eyes right to it every time I see his picture.

it is almost like a third eye

Kinda like the Mole

The Austin Powers mole.

when you said the Mole, I thought Cindy Crawford, not Austin Powers but that is just me, nothing wrong with thinking Austin Powers.
Cindy Crawford . . .

Moles used to mean something.

Aaaanddd

Another recable thread.

JP Holtz to Pitt.

CALLED IT.

Was he the one who decommitted to Wisky?
That was OL JJ Denman.

Who then decommitted to Rutgers. Holtz is from the Pgh area.

So who is the NY guy they are after?

I heard that was a ATH or something like that out of the NY area.

These google ads you have are creepy.

I HAVE THAT AIRLINE’S CREDIT CARD. FUCK YOU.

Excellent work. Cannot wait to feature this on SBNation.com

ugh, turning out to be a disapointing class

I knew it would be tough going this year but dam. We used to get nothing but 4 star recruits with some 3’s & 5’s sprinkled in now we’re battling non-football powers for 2 star kids. While I have never been a huge believer in some rankings of 18 yr olds this is very concerning. Even more concerning is, isn’t this Holtz kid a TE ? Doesn’t he see what BOB does with TEs ? The whole Patriot offense is now geared to their 2 beasts. IDK, hopefully next year will be better but I just can’t picture us grabbing too many kids from OSU and UM. If we can’t keep the PA & NJ kids in State College we are in real trouble.

The gap between those two and the rest of the Big Ten is enormous at this point. PSU will get better, but it will take a long time.

Luckily, Penn State has a lot of true fans who are intelligent and will support the program even through the coming lean years. Many programs do not have that.

The gap is very large for a variety of reasons (namely Meyer, Hoke, Mattison, et al.).

But I don’t think it will take as long as you might think for PSU to get up to their level. BOB has surrounded himself with a good number of quality recruiters (Butler and London seem like they will be beasts out there), as well as hitting the trail pretty hard already. For example, a PSU plane went from DC (contact still unknown) to Latrobe (Demetrious Cox?) to New York (Wayne Morgan?) to Boston all in one day yesterday.

Collecting frequent flyer miles.

Will come in handy when we play in the BCS MNC game next season.

I only experienced Butler during his one year at USC, so take this with a grain of salt..

He didn’t do anything of note on the recruiting trail.

That’s what it is tough to get a handle on: how big of a recruiting improvement is Bradley?

Still unconfirmed, but it appears as if Demetrious Cox will announce live on Pittsburgh area TV next Tuesday.

Looks like a PSU/OSU/MSU battle.

I hope it is on a public access channel.
So long as they don't preempt any solid reporting on the truth of Kris and the Boxcar.
One of these days I'm going to break down and buy that book.
I dont look at this favorably

Sounds like an Ohio State kid

Butler & London ?

To be honest with you, I am not well versed on those two as far as recruiters. I know Vandy and Johnson are real good, and it sounds like BOB could be pretty good. I am just not sure of Butler or Landon and MacWhorter for that matter. The thing that bothers me more is that we really didn’t out recruit UM or OSU even with OSU on probation and non-bowling and UM having a few really bad years ( excluding last year).

Never done too much damage in NJ ?

For as long as I can remember PS has hit NJ hard. McCreary and Anderson used to hit NJ aggressivly. NJ produces a ton of talent although most of it leaves there is still a ton of talent there. PS has has a great deal of sucess there in the past always grabbing 3,4 or 5 kids from there. I think it would be A HUGE mistake casting aside NJ.

You can say that again!

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