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There's much more going on at BSD today -- go read about our basketball team's surprise victory, or the wrestlers' performance at the Southern Scuffle! What? The previous Bill O'Brien thread is at nearly 1,000 comments, causing the entire internet to break under the stress of fury and scorn? Use this thread for continued BOBTALK.

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So....

Is this meeting with the coaches going on right now? If so, hopefully we know more in the next hour or so.

The way things have gone, we'll actually know less

and be more pissed off

The dude in the back right has a sickle

that’s some good hustle.

I see a couple down that line

Which begs the question?

Sickle or Pitchfork?

Both wrong

Broomsticks are the only way to go

Pitchfork or Sickle thats a hard one

Sickle

What about a scythe?
Axe Handle

It’s like you amateurs have never been in a lynch mob before.

I have 2 machetes at home
Glad they don't have hoodies and "dunce" caps on!
Maybe I'll take a page out of Anchorman's book

and bring a trident.

AHHHH

I have a Grenade!!!

That escalated quickly.

I mean, it really got out of hand!

I killed a man
^^^^

That escalated rather quickly
Craig James allegedly killed those 5 hookers with some combo of pitchfork, trident and grenade.
and his devilishly good looks
Sgt. Tackleberry prefers the billy club

This little baby, it doesn’t even break.
It pulverizes.
I can smash anybody.
I can hold them in a chokehold.
I have complete control over a perpetrator
or a group of perpetrators.

(This is the most obscure reference ive ever posted here)

Son where did you get that gun

my mom gave it to me

I've been saving myself

For the right mob.

Both

With a torch on the middle of the pitchfork.

It really depends.

If you’re trying to get at someone who’s hiding in a closet or barricaded in behind some furniture, you’d probably want the pitchfork. Then again, you could swipe the scythe or sickle underneath, where there’s a gap between the door and floor, and take them down that way.

All in all, a sickle would also be better for actually beheading the person once you catch them, while a pitchfork would be better at subduing and capturing them. Then you torch the place.

Now that is well thought out

im kinda afraid of you now

We'll also need one of these

I'm ready for some good ol' fashioned siege-ing.
I'm actually setting up my trebuchet

on the practice field below the BJC.

Looks like a 5-star punter
nope... not drunk enough
somebody get that man some CRUZAN RUM
siege engines are where its AT.

(never thought Id say that)

Both too unwieldly

Pitchfork gets hung up in stuff during jabs, sickle depends on the oponent offering a verticle target,…..rifle and bayonet is the weapon here….step, lunge, step, lunge, squeeze off a round to free the bayonet when a major muscle closes over it and grabs….in theory anyway. It all gets alot easier the more beer you drink

Well if we're assuming firearms are on the table

I’ll take a semiautomatic shotgun with a chainsaw bayonet

Where can I get a chainsaw bayonet?

preferably wholesale

This would have been perfect

When I commanded the 2031st bicycle regiment and we had to cut our own trails. Pretty small fuel resevoir too, think it needs more R&D. And the silencer/chainsaw combo just kind of defies infantry logic, but I’m on this.

If you could silence the chainsaw

imagine the possibilities.

I see a DoD contract for the taking

But all we need to slap the BoT and Admin down is sound logic and a collective voice. Have some thoughts on that, but well beyond me at this point. Kudos for coming up with that pic so fast!

I'm now inspired to go sickle shopping.
I'm 'pretty sure'

that’s Rambler.

you should have called this the

“According to ESPN Bill OBrien, then later according to ESPN the not Bill OBrien Overflow Thread”

Even ESPiN seems a bit mystified as to why no confirmation of anything under the sun is being made by PSU

Seems like like a royal mess on top of what it already was. Someone jumped the gun leaking the information out, I think that’s quite clear.

It has to be O’Brien’s agent. Putting pressure on the Jags…

If even SOMTHING like that is true

then I cannot imagine Joyner as a very happy guy at the moment.

Just Joyner

Making sure he tells everyone who didn’t get the job in person before announcing the press conference for the new coach. Because this is the way we do things at Penn State now. With class and dignity for all. Not like we used to do back in the dark ages when we fired people by phone.

And the news is only hanging out there in public for like 20 hours

before we tell them in person. Humane.

Like I said...

regardless of the origin of the leaked information, Joyner cannot be happy with it. Something just isn’t right about this situation as it stands.

Hey guys - anything big going on today?
Not really

Quite calm really, and mundane

Evidenced by...

The 1000+ comment thread we just exited.

That was just getting into serious discussions of the relative merits of human sacrifice.

Every time we start to make progress on real live social issues on this blog I get censored. Every time.

Seems how things go these days

One mention of Human sacrifice and everyone gets all wierd about it.

I'm for it

Human sacrifice that is. Lets start with Sandusky.

You should have specialized in constitutional law.

Problem is, that means you have to run for Congress or work for the ACLU.

LOL... and remember to read before posting.
There's just a lot of quite hope around town right now.
Icers play Central Oklahoma at 8:30pm

That’s all I got.

GO ICERS!
PSU's third string goalie is transferring

I’m shocked this issue isn’t lighting up the boards today.

Carr is going to WNEU. He was destined to be buried on the depth chart and he wasn’t a Gadowsky recruit. Good luck.

We're trying to figure out who will fill the spot for the rest of the semester

Seeing how it’s risky to go with only two goalies, especially since Madrazo has already been injured once this year. Best we’ve got is Dan Ivanir (who would do fine in the #3 role, assuming he’s still been playing/in shape) right now.

As for Carr, he was likely looking for more than what he was getting (3 games in the first semester). So he’s off to WNEU. No hard feelings, and we wish him all the best going forward.

Others

The Ice Lions reportedly have four goalies.

True, but they're doing well

So they’re not going to give up one of their top goalies (or at the very least, I don’t want to take one of their top goalies while they’re successful). And I fear trying to put the Ice Lions’ #3 or #4 goalie onto the Icers. At least Ivanir has experience with the Icers. But we’ll see – Guy might have other ideas/plans entirely.

Are there any plans for the Ice Lions

to “move up” – as in to club level, into the ACHA (or whatever it is now) – after the Icers become a varsity team?

Nothing planned

From all reports, the Ice Lions will remain ACHA D2 after the Icers jump to varsity in the Fall.

There is technically a rule in the ACHA rulebook that says schools are not allowed to have an ACHA D1 team if they have a varsity level team. However, this is the ACHA, so they don’t enforce their own rules – schools like Robert Morris (PA) and Niagara both have NCAA and ACHA D1 teams. In any case, unless they start dominating the D2 ranks on an annual basis, I’m guessing Penn State will keep the team at D2.

What is the difference between ACHA divisions and NCAA divisions
Quick Answer - level of competition/talent

ACHA = club
NCAA = varsity

From there, the difference is about the same between the divisions, in that the top teams from the lower division can hang with the teams from the next higher division and can beat the lesser teams in that division. So the NCAA D3 top teams can hang with NCAA D1 teams; top ACHA D1 teams can hang with NCAA D3 teams; top ACHA D2 teams can hang with ACHA D1 teams; and supposedly there’s a ACHA D3 somewhere. Who knew? Also note, there is no NCAA D2 – it had very few teams and ended up dissolving a few years back.

Thanks, always wondered about that.

I had a weight lifting class with a guy on the team many years ago and he couldn’t explain it to me.

ACHA D3

Is a lot like club hockey in the sense most people imagine club sports – random ice time hours, volunteer coaches, struggle to survive. Mostly in the south, I think.

As per Ben Jones

With some help from others. Joyner had a meeting with Short, Dozier and Bradley’s Lawyer. No confirmed players at Lasch.

Joyner with Bradley in Lasch right now.

If I was in State College

I’d offer to take Bradley out for a few drinks after this meeting.

That would be great

I am sure you would have a real good time. I would love to have a few beers and shoot the breeze with Bradley.

Did you just say

you’re sure he would “have a real good time???”

PitBull approves

#LET’SHAVEAREALGOODTIMELET’SHAVEAREALGOODTIME

Indeed I did sir, Indeed I did.
Well

Maybe not such a good time tonight :-(

That depends onhow much booze you get in him
Or Dr. Pepper
I think Bradley drinks

Lager with shots of Jager. In my head that is what he does.

I see Bradley as a Martini guy

As he suavely hits on beautiful women.

I see Scrap as an Iron City man.

Warm quart bottles.

in brown bag

When he’s with the lads.

Otherwise, around the ladies, the martini thing.

I'll go with gin and tonics.
G&T's when he's with his mom

Ladies on the market, martinis, dry, two olives.

Gin martinis

None of this bullshit Vodka crap thats overtaken the youth of today

Gin is gross.

And I’ll sit on your damn lawn all I want.

I like me a good gin and tonic.
Tried it and it sucked.

I bought an airplane bottle of really good gin, a glass bottle of tonic, and cut some fresh organic lime wedges. Used fresh ice. If there was going to be a gin and tonic I liked, that was going to be it.

A better way to drink gin:

Pour gin in glass
Add olive

Drink

That's what my Dad did.

he called it an EXTRA Dry Martini

+1

But thats the only way i like gin.

Personally

I drink dirty vodka Martini’s. When the bartender asks how dirty I’d like them, I respond ‘filthy’. I also really like bleu cheese olives in my martinis.

I agree though gin tastes like pin sol and drain cleaner mixed

YES, this ^

Vodka martini, extra dirty, extra olives. Can’t go wrong there.

I also agree with this suggestion
The Word . . .

according to Commander Cody and the Lost Planet Airmen:

One drink of wine, Two Drinks of Gin
And I’m lost in the ozone again.

No vodka involved.

hahahahah

gross and alcohol in the same sentence

Only if it's "I'll take a gross of alcohol, please."
Tanqueray
Or Bombay Sapphire.

Over priced but pretty good.

Depending on the ladies

it could be Martini, extra dirty

He'll be ok once he takes over as the DC at Iowa.
Ugh.

Can’t stand the idea of Scrap wearing someone else’s colors. Because I’m going to have to root for whatever team he ends up coaching.

Sorry if this interview has been posted before

But Dan Koppen, Pats center from Whitehall, PA (remember Pete Lisicky?) did this interview with the Allentown Morning Call.

http://blogs.mcall.com/groller/2012/01/danny-koppen-thinks-penn-state-made-a-good-choice.html

I especially liked , He basically called him a straight-shooter and a guy who won’t blow smoke

.

Yeah I went to school with him

In high school, a bit behind him, by my brother was in same grade. Mixed about Koppen, but does talk straight

Meet Lisicky a few tiems also

He was alright i guess.

Koppen is also from teh same area as Matt Millen. Persoanlities are similar at times.

A good friend of mine went to Whitehall...

with both Dan Koppen and Pete. Same graduating class too.

I think they were in the same year

What was your friends name, I might know them

I emailed you.

Not sure that he would want me using his name on the blog.

speaking of old school Hoopsters

I was glad Glen Sekunda didnt play in NBA, so that we didnt have to hear Chris Berman on Highlights sing “I left my wallet in Glen Sekunda”

That just sounds dirty.
Got to get it

Got, got to get it.

Ali had the fruit punch

Did you watch Beats, Rhymes, Life yet?

Great Tribe documentary.

No. Shit!

Thx for the reminder, tho. And dammit! Neither netflix streaming (only on dvd) or hulu plus have more than the ‘excerpt.’ Will check Vudu from home.

Also, on the hip-hop tip, you should know: Almost every night when I get home from work, my kids see me come through the door and immediately begin pointing at the tv and grunting their (so far mostly) indecipherables.
Me: ‘you want music?’
Them: /nods
Me: ‘hip hop classics?’
Them: /big nods

Then we get down. They’ve got head bobbin totally down and have begun rockin their own body styles on the dance living room floor. And every time Kurtis Blow comes on, I’m reminded of y’alls tailgate where ‘basketball’ was playing out a speaker right next to somebody doing Thai stir fry.

Despite us routinely asking

we can’t get Kurtis himself to come to the tailgate and make stir fry for us. We’ll keep trying.

Glad to hear you’re raising them right. If Run-DMC was good enough for me, it’s good enough for kids today.

If Beaver Stadium gets burned down by the angry mob, can we still tailgate there in the fall?

Ummm, yes.

Greatest Tailgate Evah.

Um, what the hell else is the guy going to say?
whatever it is, its bold
sorry

I meant to preview it, and I hit post instead.

I are a knucklehead (and a bad keyboard operator!)

I'm taking my Butkus award and Alamo Bowl trophy

and going home

What year did you win the Butkus?
Every night in dreamland!
The last of the serious two-way players.
I only ask b/c

I am trying to coily figure out who hbeach08 actually is, and what postion he played and all those things.

O line

And a pretty damn good player as well as I remember.

Thanks SubLime

Always coll to get info from former players, especially if they contributed big time.

I don't think Butkus went both ways.

As a reminder why it’s not called “the Conlin Award”

He also starred in a movie as a dog:

right number though
Don't give your identity away!
I won't say it if I figure it out

Out of respect.

I'm already looking on Nittany Anthology!
Me to

But the website I am on isn’t worth crap.

Do you use NittanyAnthology.com?

If so I think I figured it out. His name is __________. (I think I’ll do a Sekrah and give you clues)

If you find it

My e-mail is in my profile, send a brother some love.

I played o line

and my name rhymes with Derek Schmole

Yeah

I went on nittanyanthology.com and figured it out. You were just a little guy back then. Probably could have blocked Butkus.

Did you really play in the XFL?

yes

fun period of my life

you weren't

He Hate Me, were you!

My favorite thing about He Hate Me

was the use of the singular pronoun. There is one male that hates him, conjugated incorrectly.

I remember a bunch of us getting together to watch the first XFL game

He Hate Me was classic, but not as much as when one of the cheerleaders introduced Tommy Maddox by saying “He always knows how to score”. I wish it had taken off.

I was a one and done anyway, but it would have been cool to have it last a while longer

I already had a job and the boss was gracious enough to let me leave for 5 months or so to scratch the itch I had after not making the NFL

That would be the first line on my resume

by the way.

PSU football gets way more love than XFL

in my experience

the XFL addendum is like a novelty line

Hmm

maybe I’m going about this resume thing the wrong way

/wonders why still unemployed
/Madden 03 prowess listed prominently

LOL

my current boss hired me because I did NOT have a higher than 3.5 GPA…liked a more well rounded grad that was social. Well, that, and because I’m awesome.

#BSDFAMEGETSTOMYHEADQUICKLY

I need to find a firm with a boss like that

Not that I didn’t have good grades (good, not great), but that just sounds like a great work environment. I’m really interested in finding a cool boss/work environment more than I am a cool “job”.

it's a good company

with a good boss, but it’s a pressure cooker. I HIGHLY prefer the small, private company aspect though

Yeah

I’m looking at places with less than 20 employees generally. I’m more motivated to work in earnest collaboration than in a sort of self-promotional, cutthroat environment.

it's a lot more rewarding
Move to Alaska and work for a dick like I did.

Turned out well.

Scratched an itch?
I'm not falling for the banana in the tailpipe
Look man, I ain't fallin for no banana in my tailpipe!
FINALLY

Figured it out. Sweetness, and good stuff.

Whadda ya think, Beach

Would you have liked to block Dick Budkus?

I would have like to play in the 50's or 60's

with my size and skill set

i guess i’ll leave it at that :)

plus i could smoke and drink all i wanted back then

I am a little (a lot) older than you

Back in my youth, the Steelers used to have an offseason basketball team that would travel to HS’s for fundraisers and such. I remember them coming to my school, about 1960. I remember Bobby Layne and Charlie Scales, but no others. Course, back then the Steelers were the laughing stock of pro football. You could get drunk sitting three rows behind those guys! Second hand booze!

They still do that

Well they did at my school anyways. It was pretty awesome to see Hines Ward dunk on my gym teacher.

I did graduate with the daughter of the GM of the Steelers, so I don’t know if that pulled any sway for the fundraiser (I’m sure it did)

Yeah they still did this in the early 2000's

Hines Ward could ball too.

I went to junior high in Cincy

Bengals used to have a similar deal at the local high school

pretty boss seeing Munoz, Montoya, and Fulcher tear it up as a kid

LaVarr, is that you? I thought you apologized.
Current view of the Lasch Building

Kraft confirmed this morning, Joyner still not saying anything

Does that sounds like a guy who is competent to be an AD?

Kraft confirm OBrien wouldnt be back

which is likely true, since his contract is up and they are negotiating with Josh McDaniels to return

No, this is pretty specific in acknowledging him coming to PSU

“I’m sad to lose him. I told him that,” Kraft said earlier this morning in a phone conversation with Karen Guregian. "We have a philosophy in our company, that if anyone has an opportunity and we can’t match it – we did have the ability to deny him under our contract – but this is one of the great college coaching positions. they have their challenges right now.

“Billy is a very high quality guy, he’s got integrity. he’s honest, and I’m sad to see him go,” Kraft went on, “but I think they’ve chosen wisely.”

So is he saying

That if someone has an opportunity and they can’t match it, that they’ll hold that person to their contract?

Yeah, he needed to finish that thought

I’m assuming he was going to say, we wish them luck in the future.

Not sure where you are getting that from

He is just saying that he was under contract and they could have prevented him from interviewing and accepting before his contract was up.

To be fair,

Kraft could have just seen ESPN and calle BOB and said congrats, and BOB might have even said a deal isn’t quite done yet.

Kraft seems senile.
Kraft saved the NFL

without him, there would have been no season this year. He was instrumental in negotiating the final deal. So he ain’t senile. But…. he might be happy to see O’Brien go….

He was also one of the hard liners that generated bad feelings in the beginning
Isn't he busy making cheese?

No, the other kind.

whoops, I meant RE: Kraft

The AMERICAN cheese.
This is a good thing.

Penn State football will be getting a new playbook. There is a God!!!!
Welcome Coach O’Brien

The good news is the end of the obligation to throw passes to

the fullback and to hand it off to him two-out-of-four-times at the goal-line :]

Two out of four?

Surely you mean four out of four.

Joyner meeting with coaches lasted 30 mins.

No coaches have left the building though.

They're trying to get rid of the body
The Collegian tweeted, 29mins ago

That LJSR was seen driving away from the bldg.

Hmm,

Musselman says meeting lasted until 4:30 and no choaches left the building since.

Better than driving into the building
If the Collegian is covering this anything like they covered the preliminary hearings

Then that was actually a reference to him leaving to go home las tnight

Well, they're still covering Junny pretty well ;)
Audrey Snyder tweet

JayPa seen leaving Lasch crying. No comment about what happened. Said ‘have good wknd. I’m sure you will all be busy’

ugh, this is sad
i meant makes me sad
JayPa crying is kind of a funny concept. I want to speculate what made him cry but every possible noun is popping into my head as an option.
I'm really trying my best to hold back a joke

because it is sad. It really is. The way this ended is simply tragic on so many levels, to so many people.

Jay's world has literally been shattered.
That he's hung in there and done his job

Is remarkable. I mean, the guy had his share of critics before this, but he stuck it out for love of the kids on the team and the PSU name. He’s alright in my book.

/cue QB debate

He has been remarkable.

Just getting on the sideline for Nebraska was huge. And wearing JoePa’s coat was genius!

The coat was indeed perfect.
Quotable

Shane Conlan: Brandon Short “does not speak for the majority of former players. He’s gone off the deep end.”

Sounds about right.
this is what we need

first it was us against them, now its us against us

Welcome to UofM after the RichRod hire.....wahoooo!
i'm sorry; that is just not true about UofM after the RichRod hire; there was a lot of support; the RichRod apologists are engaging in revisionist history for some baffling unknowable reason.

Even after the 3-9 season, the next season began with a lot of support. The first of DRob’s September Heismans if you remember.

RichRod lost too many games. That’s why he was fired, not because he did not receive enough support. If he had hired a competent DC, he would still be the HC.

Have you read 3 & out yet?

Rich Rod encountered shit-heaps of opposition from many camps of Michigan fandom.

You could make a case that there were also camps that supported him, but it’s not revisionist at all to characterize UM fandom reaction to his hiring as unsupportive.

um, sorry, but you are the one with revisionist history

people were pissed from his very first news conference because he didn’t emphasize the rivalry with OSU enough in their view

GAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

That makes it sound like Joyner confirmed the hiring to Conlan. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

i was about to say that

the whining and crying will fill some time for the next 8 months but in the end if you don’t get behind this guy and the rest of the program…methinks you’re being dramatic

if you had told me 2 months ago that the next coach of psu would be bill o’brien, i would have been like…um, u cray….but…

this is the situation that the program and the school got themselves into. this could be a HR hire, he could be great, you don’t know. he could be a filler, as following THE MAN, is one of the toughest things to do…and then we see what happens in 2015 or so.

i know that feels far away, but 2012 felt far away when i graduated a week and a half ago…but that was 2006

My rage has subsided

And in the process, I’ve realized that I’m glad no one knows who I am. Rationality has once again taken over, but I’m sure that I would have produced a handful of soundbites if people, you know, cared about me.

I’m sure (hoping anyways) that Lavarr and Short feel the same way. They let their rage over take them for a second, and now feel embarrassed that they didn’t control themselves in a very emotional moment.

LaVarr has apologized for his outbursts
To whom did LaVarr apologize...

…did he do it on Twitter?

On his radio show
WHAT is with

all these demands for apologies for loud, emotional outbursts?? Anti-Italian racism, obviously. Marone.

Same here

We’re all dummies. I’m still pissed at the way this whole thing was handled though.

Oh I definitely am still pissed

I’m (slightly) better able to articulate my feelings now though. When I’m not busy laughing at the freaking circus this was the last 24 hours or so. I’m glad I’ve reached the point I see the humor in this clusterfuck

same

of course, the bourbon helped.

I've got a bottle of Old Grandad 114 waiting for me at home
I'm so bummed I'm not sure I can motivate myself to drink :(....
better get over that hump soon

you might have to do that a lot in the coming years.

I'm so sorely disappointed in our incompetent leadership I'm not sure how much I'll even bother following the team

Some dickhead Texas alumni just told me Penn State must do their penance now.

You should shoot him

seriously

That depresses me

I shall drink for you.

See how easy it is to motivate yourself to drink?

Pretty easy

hey, theres a beer here. Time to drink.

hmmmm, not working for me yet
keep looking at it

you’ll get thirsty eventually

Embarrassingly crappy beer #1

After coming home and seeing my Penn State Alumni Association magazine and RAINN donation tax receipt on the kitchen table pushed me over the edge.

It’s time to get fucking rowdy.

time to catch up

I’m already buzzed.

BRING THE MUTHAFUCKIN RUCKUS!
sigh, some asshole just hit my two month old car in the parking lot

I’ll be catching up quickly

That makes me wanna bust a cap in the screen!
Did they at least leave a note?

If not, you have carte blanche to bring a sledgehammer on Monday and smash everyone’s car, I think. Seems fair.

wife saw it happen, go all the info

still pissed off though, first new car I ever bought

First, I'm glad I caught the word "car" on my second reading (alcohol).

Secondly, do you got a gun?

No, wife and apartment owner won't let me
minus the apartment, thats why i own knives.

that and I’ve always figured this: if you’re face to face with a man holding a gun, you have to think theres a little hesitation in him. If you’re face to face with a man holding a machete, you know he’s got a little crazy inside of him.

but we DO know who you are and where you live.
Shit

Well, party at my house. See you guys there.

yay! party... and we all get some of the Granddad 114?
Screw that

somebody pass me the ether.

I'll have to buy a bottle for everyone

We’re drinking until this all makes sense. It could take a while

Brandon is a recruiting classmate

and, although we haven’t spoken in years, a friend. But my goodness, what an ugly way to act. Like Tom Bradley was the only viable candidate and he would solve all our problems. Get real dude.

More legroom for me in the lettermen’s section.

Fiasco indeed Pat.

YahooForde Pat Forde
Apparently Tom Bradley has finally been informed that Penn State has a new coach, and it’s not him. What a fiasco.

How could Pat Forde possibly know this?
Why do you have to 'know' something to report it?
Good point, lol
What if Bradley becomes AD? Is that possible?

I don’t get what’s going on here.

That doesnt seem.... possible..?
I think this thought

I vote Franny Ganter

I disagree

since he was the one who handed Joe the number to call…I’d like to think he would have had more integrity than that.

get the fuck outta town

i had so much respect for fran…now not so much

Does O'Brien really know what he's walking into?

I have to think so, which alone means the guy has brass balls.

this is a good point

he has an uphill battle to say the least. there will be a lot of people with a lot of influence (read:money) at the univesrity who want to speak with him in the coming months.

god speed bob

no

he’s probably thinking “man, they’re going to love me, I coached Tom Brady!”

I hope he's not that myopic
he's myopic enough

to think he doesnt need to get started right away at his new job, where the fanbase is obviously already on edge.

"Remember the time

I yelled at Tom Brady? You guys HATE Tom Brady!"

Yeah, nice resume, sunshine.

/barf

Even if we end up liking the guy, can we all agree that it's cool to make a lot of Bill O'Brien photoshops?

at every turn

nothing but chins
I think you meant

Nothing, butt chins

Per Yahoo and Forde: Bradley has been informed he's not the coach
BREAKING POSSIBLE NEWS
Chef for the reception dinner tweeted "The reception I mentioned yesterday was canceled today…somebody else WAS in place..O’Brien was backup plan.
Can't wait for the conspiracy theorists to get ahold of this
not the hurdy gurdy part...
O'BRIEN REFUSES FISH!

REDO THE MENU!

I'm confused

I thought any/all reception dinners involved chicken cosmos and west halls cookies

What does the Corner Room usually serve for receptions?
They make a helluva turkey club

And clam chowder. Although your best bet is to order that stuff next door at pickles with some #9

oh how i miss pickles
It's rumored she still hangs round West Halls

in warmer weather

MMM

I will have to head there the next time I am in town.

Anyone with an interest should email

Bryan Kardisco at bryan.kardisco@gmail.com — as he’s the one who registered the domain name www.FireBillOBrien.com — and suggest he stops forwarding it to the FIreJayPa website and gets a real one up soon.

And so it’s clear I’m not posting private information, his name, etc. are all available online through any WHOIS search — see: http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/firebillobrien.com

What's the deal with Pickles

I still haven’t been there. It looks like it’s like every other bar. What does it bring to the table, so to speak?

McQueary used to hang out there
Yup. That was....somethin'.
this must've been after he got his groove on at Shandygaffs
I was there when they built that place

I had high hopes because of the words “Tap Room”. A tap room should be wall to wall taps. It wasn’t. Instead it turned Fratastic very quickly. Do yourself a favor and walk 50 feet to Zenos.

That was my thought too

Zenos is traditionally the towny bar and I’m a towny so there it is.

I like Zenos

Do they still have a bluegrass night? Also do the Rustlanders still play there on tuesdays (coincidentally I’m listening to them right now on my ipod)

I graduated Dec 2010

And as of then they still did. A band named Cabinet played, and was quite good.

Beer enthusiast recommendation

If you haven’t been back in town recently, the Deli has actually done an admirable job of building out a nice tap and bottle selection. I’ve found a couple of brews there that I really like and haven’t gotten anywhere in town.

Thanks for the recommendation.

I’ll check it out next time I’m in town.

Deli story

Was there around New Years. Don’t normally frequent the place but two friends were in town and they chose the watering hole. I had my scotches and at one point we decided to celebrate something or other and asked the waitri for a bottle of champagne. She said she would have to check if they had any — apparently they have gone so beer-centric she couldn’t recall if they had any. Came back with what appeared to be a champagne bottle — nice dark bottle, scripty writing, foil wrap and we said thanks and proceeded to undo the foil, wire-wrap and pop the cork. When we poured it, it looked rather dark. We took sips, and went, “gawd!” Turns out Sam Adams bottles a carbonated Ale in champagne bottles and the waitri mistook it for champagne. So, if you’re in the market for beer — they probably have it.

Infinium?

I have a bottle of it in my fridge. Kind of scared, I heard it’s not actually that good.

Yep

And yes, the “gawd” was as in, “gawd, this is not actually that good.” Then we read the bottle and said, “Why exactly did they think this was a good idea?” Go ahead and give it a shot though. Maybe you’ll like it. Worst case is at least it’ll free up space in your fridge.

Gouden Caroulus Noel came packaged like this

It’s okay I guess

I always thought of Zenos as the weird ass bar

I can’t even explain some the people we met there. Strangest ass shit. I loved it.

I got rejected from entering Zenos once because I leaned on the door while waiting to get in

I seriously wasn’t even drunk, but they told me I clearly was too drunk and I couldn’t go in. Wouldn’t let my friends in either. That’s the last time I went to Zenos.

SCREW EM!

Well I guess it also helps that

it was like 2 weeks before graduation ..and I haven’t been back to SC since lol

I was 'cut off' there a few months ago

Because I refused to get my hand stamped when I walked in the door. Something to the effect of, ’I’ll pay the damn cover again if I leave’. The bartender gave me a water and an epic speech about crossing over, aka dumping out the water and filling the pint glass with beer from a pitcher.

I got escorted out of GMan my senior year with a bouncer on each arm.

And I wasn’t even drunk. The bartender cut me off because my “eyes were drunk”. Not even kidding. I got pissed and how my g/f at the time order me a beer. The bartender saw me take a swig and showed me the door. I did not go quietly since all of my friends were there.

Zenos is weird

Since I went to State High, I always see some extremely random person I sort of know there, and since I’m never there unless I’m drunk, the interaction with that person is always like something out of a fever dream.

Good times.

My friends and I made friends with the entire staff

of Pickles senior year, not even exaggerating, everyone that worked there.

Nothing

Well not nothing. They show rugby games there because they get some obscure sports channel. They used to have dollar long islands on thursdays, and some cowboy night on tuesday or wednesday or something.

But they serve corner room food because they share a kitchen, so its a good place to get lunch and have a beer. But its nothing special

Country night was on Tuesday
I'm a fan of Pickles.

Always seemed to be a bit more chill when I was there.

I've never heard of Pickles before

How old is it?

About 5 or 6 years?
wow, it's been over 10 since I graduated

and 7 since I left SC. I haven’t done much drinking downtown the few times I’ve returned. Need to spend a week to catch up. I heard the Crowbar was turned into a shitty dance club.

Yeah, Pickles sucks.
Um, Pickles is still Pickles

Crowbar is now… something else.

Although, Crowbar was a disaster before they changed names. Did it become Cell Block?

Also, hasn’t Cell Block since closed, too?

Yeah

Crowbar became Cell Block which became the Mezzanine or something equally stupid

Does the Brewery still exist?

Can Shogun and I still smash mason jars on the floor and not get thrown out? I NEED ANSWERS.

It still exists.

And it probably depends on how well you tip.

Worked at the Phyrst back

when Ernie owned both places (Phyrst and Brewery). We used mason’s because they were cheap (you’d be surprised how much the distributors will hit you for glassware) and you had to account for about every 5 beers you were gonna lose one glass. Not so much “breakage” as “take-age”.

Definitely

they know who the fuck we are.

We had a rule that you had to swear loudly after every sip of your beer at the brewery

I didn’t go there often but every single time I got so unbelievably smashed off of Railbender

Suddenly everything makes total sense.

The Brewery is totally YOUR bar.

But at least the Crowbar was able to bring in live acts

There were a bunch of good shows when I was there

Last time I was up in State (early November)

the Crowbar/Cell Block/Mezzanine was completely closed and nothing had opened in its place.

Its been turned into two shitty dance clubs

The last shitty dance club managed to have an 18 and over night and quarter beer/dollar shot night on the same night. How they could have thought that that was a good idea is beyond me.

Before Crowbar, it was Tattoo

A similarly shitty dance club to what the current one sounds like. I did get to see A Tribe Called Quest live there (in ’93 or ’94 I think) though so at least it had that redeeming quality

I saw the Disco Biscuits there.

And Maceo Parker.

I was at the Maceo Parker show too

Forgot about it until you mentioned him. Great show, I was dancing like I never danced before.

you could say I was a maniac
The tall guy in the Cowboy hat was the best.
Maceo is amazing. AMAZING.
Pickles is for bros.

I’m on team Zeno’s.

Sounds like we need a bar crawl

I’m new here. Maybe that’s already a BSD thing.

wow; BOBTALK is popular.

971 on the “MortReport” post yesterday evening; 772 on the Powers article; 1016 on the “200% More Angst” post and surging past 150 already for this post; plus, as of now, 8,12, 58 and 19 comments to various FanPosts.

I'm gonna make a hire that gets those Penn State fans talking

-Joyner, out of his ass

Its true!

Look at the 1200+ comments!

I was amused by this tweet from Ben 7mins ago
Football managers scrambling coaches cars. Trying to spread the media thin. Joyner left quickly without comment.
I love a LeMans start!

F1 should go back to it.

Now they're re-scrambling

and various people are leaving with each round of scrambling, and the media is scrambling to catch the scrambling scramblers.

They hired actors who looked like each of the coaches

to act as decoys.

That’s why it took so long.

Maybe the reception chef

can make some scrambled eggs.

good luck finding a Dick Anderson

look alike actor

Challenge accepted


that was like 30 years ago
I nominate Nick Nolte.

Both then and now.

Yeah, the modern & color ones

weren’t working out so well…

Guess I was late with my comment.

All of this has me laughing out loud. What. A. Disaster.

I wish I was in SC

SO BAD right now. I would be over there just watching everyone scramble.

I would wear a Penn State football jump suit

and put a hood up and walk around, hurriedly, and see how many reporters would follow me to see who I was and where I was going and what I knew.

Then he says...
Managers now re-scrambling cars. Coaches,staff leaving during each.scramble.
Guh, what a joke.
LOL. They're "controlling the narrative".
If the narrative is

“how can I possibly make myself look dumber and more cowardly?”

So rec'd!

Or wrecked.

Whichever comes first.

Joyner is such an ass

I wish bad things upon him.

Joyner, as of 5pm
Q: What about Bill O’Brien? Any truth to that?

DJ: I’m not going to confirm anything, as I’ve always done, out of repect for people. So I peronally am not going to confirm anything yet. So when there is something to confirm we’ll let you know.

Link

Unbelievable

Um, that cat is out of the bag. Even if pen hasn’t met paper, you think you could at least give us something.

Had to google that phrase's etymology

Snopes has the best breakdown (better than some of those pommy sites)(apologies to Jack Crawford):

The most widely believed theory about the saying’s origin asserts it has to do with chicanery practiced upon those purchasing livestock. According to its lights, unscrupulous sellers of pigs would hastily swap a cat for the porker that had been purchased and bagged for easier transport when the buyer looked away for a moment, with the duped purchaser discovering the substitution only upon returning home and letting the cat out of the bag. Although numerous etymology books tout this explanation as the phrase’s origin, common sense should serve to dismiss it. For the duped livestock purchaser theory to be right, the seller’s deception would come to light only when the cat was let out of the bag. Yet, bag or not, it’s nigh on impossible to mistake a cat for a pig. At very least, anyone this deception was tried upon would quickly conclude there was something mighty wrong about its porker long before he opened the bag to see what was going on inside.

LOLOLOLing... thank you very much for that non-sequitur.
My favorite line
Yet, bag or not, it’s nigh on impossible to mistake a cat for a pig.
That is a brilliant and slightly subversive editorialization

I always look for those. You should have read my high school newspaper articles.

Oh, NOW

we have respect for people. 60 days too late, nimrod.

he stil doesn't

he’s a lying bastard.

Ganim reporting

the staff was told at 4PM that no decision had been made yet

interesting twist as she has been as solid as anyone on this front…albeit mostly from a sandusky case standpoint…but she’s still been solid

This is fun.

A bit like watching a train wreck in slow motion. Tomorrow LaVar will tweet “never mind”.

yea, like the week after sandusky

but not as heavy

not that that was fun

but it was a train wreck in extreme slow motion

It was more like a nuke dropping in slow motion.
gawd, can you imagine how he is going to feel if the hire is not BOB?
at least its not his job

#mortensen #schefter #ESPN

300+ comments and still surging; BOBTALK is way popular, man.
I think we're deep into the nonsense zone, to be fair.
oh, very true; but nonsense can be very fun. i'm still laughing at the long description above of the origin of the phrase "the cat is out of the bag"
Just explaining the number.

Nonsense is my stock in trade.

Gettin' by on gettin' by is mine.
stock in trade has always thrown me too

But when I looked it up, it was totally boring.

These threads have been getting me through the latter half of the week, man.

Right now it's Yuengling 5

BOB zero, but these things have a way of changing in the morning

can't get yuengling by me :(
Have they actually announced a press conference yet?

I know everyone thinks Joyner is inept and yada yada. But seriously don’t you think they would tell the media hey were having a press conference tomorrow at 1 pm or something like that.

I know when Sanderson was hired there was at least a days notice before the press conference, I think it was something similar Chambers although I can’t remember exactly.

It just seems very odd to me that you wouldn’t schedule a press conference in advance and that you would make it a saturday. Seems these things are almost always done during the week when you can get maximum exposure.

unless you have a shit hire and want to mask it with nfl playoffs

or maybe his 13th timeframe from last night is correct and this is far from complete

either way its a train-wreck

Unless you don't want maximum exposure

BOB is the guy. Although if he wasn’t…well let’s just say nothing would surprise me anymore

It seems that whoever (ESPN?) rolled

the satellite trucks into town yesterday knew that there was a press conference scheduled before Joyner knew.

I'm not entirely sure that Joyner isn't on ESPN's payroll

not ENTIRELY sure.

That actually wouldn't surprise me

Or maybe Joyner’s fooling us all and trolling ESPN at the same time. I’ll gladly eat my hat and or mow my lawn in a wedding dress if thats the case.

wow, quite a party at your house; Old Grandad 114, hat eating, lawncare in full wedding drag... woot woot!!
Or as I call it

Tuesday

fightonstate says 11:30

no source so take it for what it’s worth

I think I finally found the perfect analogy for this whole situation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwlfTBR-LNA

Warning…it is graphic (if you’re a pussy).

is this safe for work?
It involves a meat cleaver and poultry
so, that would be no! LOL ... now LOLing at the thought of my boss walking by just as the cleaver slams down. sigh ... hate my job.
It's safe for me work
Should have had

your agent tweet that you were interested in the PSU HC position.

Apparently, we’ll hire just about anyone.

thats nuts

i never seen evidence that its true but its kind of awesome

They have to book the room, at least

I can imagine them trying to have nice PC only to find out all the rooms are booked for weddings and what not. Poor planning.

Dude.

Ben Jones repeatedly reporting this car shuffling move where the media has to chase cars to try to get information.

I am sorry, but they had this coming. FUCK YOU PENN STATE ADMINSTRATORS. Be a fucking man. Be straightforward with something for once. This is utter bullshit. Christ, even tell us, we think we have our guy but we have people to inform before there is an announcement. Or something. Stand up tall. Take your fucking lumps if you have to. Jesus.

They're chasing the assistants

they surely didn’t have this coming.

The assistants didn't have it coming.

AGREE. You know how you can save them. By a high ranking member of the administration standing up in front of them and doing their job. They are chasing assistants because no one else is saying anything. If BOB is the guy, and needs new assistants, I would come near this place without a complete administrative overhaul.

It makes me yearn for the AD'ing Chianti Dan
Cannot wait to read the accounting of this is Joe Pos' book
I want to go forward in time and read Joe Pos' book

and then come back to present so I can be reacting in the way I should.

book on jopa tho, not psu football

may be little more than a footnote

I'm no longer excited by his book

He made few comments that seemed like he would be one of those unwilling to change his feelings towards Joe, even if the facts proved his initial feelings wrong.

That University plane to/from Boston is due back at

6:44 pm. Maybe Ben could scoot out there to see if anyone gets off other than the pilot?

Local radio said BOB

told the team in person this afternoon at/after practice that he accepted the PSU job.

Despite the legal troubles

Tim Curley was a great AD who made some killer hires over the past few years.

It’s so sad that this idiot blew up what was turning into an end to end top notch athletic department

I'm taking a wait and see approach with O'Brien

I think we are all going to have to get used to the fact that we aren’t ever going to have a coach stay here for 46 years. O’Brien may very well only be here for a few years, and hopefully he does a good job in the time he is here. He’s at least familiar with the college game and must be competent enough to be hired by Belichick. I’m willing to give him a chance.

I honestly don’t know who people would like to see be brought in as coach. Most of the other rumored candidates haven’t had any or very little HC experience, so to me there were a lot of similiarities in their qualifications. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I think the outrage is a little over the top to this point. And I find it hilarious to see comments like Lavar Arrington’s…like PSU has to get his OK to make a coaching announcement. That’s crazy.

Wasn't it JoePa who said...

…that all football decisions made by him were made by him alone, no boosters, no alumni, no nothing?

I'm not familiar with the comment

But that sounds like a good approach to have.

Something like

“I want your money, not your two cents”

Joe McIntyre says...

a team source confirmed the bob hire

fun stuff

NFL.com reporting...

that the Pats received permission to talk to Josh McDaniels about the OC job.

Sports Illustrated cites BSD and gives shout out to the comment thread from earlier today; very cool.

http://college-football.si.com/2012/01/06/designated-read-lavar-arrington-is-not-at-all-happy-with-you-penn-state/?sct=cf_t2_a4

Sorry if already posted.

Tailgate Shogun shoulda got a byline !! it was his post of the "other Bills" he would have preferred over BOB.
In my mind,

somewhere out there Bill Bellamy saw that post, and thinks he’s still relevant.

VERY cool indeed
Breaking news on ESPN 8, The Ocho... O'Brien adds his first assistant.

noooooooo..... you/we/I want the young version.
Ah, touche...

May The Fonz be with you….

there we go.... now THAT would be a good coach....
And also with you
i apologize for not knowing the proper response to the traditional greeting.
Scary Thought

Wouldn’t all of us be happier with Paul Chryst?!

Mike Haywood!
I'll drink to that.

(no I won’t).

I'll take Chryst any day over this.... based on current knowledge

But I guess we’ll get the real results when we play pitt in a few years

All I care about is if

We can still get Rick Neuheisel?

With all the talk of Bob's NFL dreams, the Rick Neuheisel rumors are hotter than ever.
Rick will ride in with the IV Legion and liberate us.

Pass the word.

So the Die has been cast?

Well I have been planning this for awhile, see you all on the ides of march.

SIC SEMPER TYRANNUS.

Son, you should take Christ in your heart everyday

and in body and blood every Sunday

On a serious note.

Who else is excited to see Mr. Bolden ascend to to Tom Brady-like status?? I’m trying to see the light here.

Haha.

You think he can operate that offense?

Even this wouldn't help Bolden

the upper right

that’s one fat beaver

Bolden

would underthrow the wide open gopher by about 10 yards.

Then stare down Carl Spackler and drill a DB in the hands.

So, no. Not sure the pictures will help.

Oh you didn't know?

Nearly all of our OL played through back injuries from taking Bolden screen passes off the spines. Little known fact.

Bradley's lawyer says Tom is officially out

Then goes on to say he hasn’t heard who’s the new coach and doesn’t think Tom knows either. JayPa walks away from meeting saying he still has a job. What on earth is going on?

/update from ESPN, I had to turn it on for this.

Credit where credit's due...

If they fire the entire staff except for Jay, this will have been the most epic trolling of a fanbase in sports history.

I'm guessing Scrap's lawyer

wasn’t really high on Joyner’s priority call list.

I guess the staff isn’t officially fired until BOB lets them go. So, technically, they’re still employed until Monday (or so).

Of course, if our esteemed new coach is too busy with other things to do, maybe he won’t get around to firing everyone so they can do his job for him for the next month or so.

i am sensing some sarcasm font in your post. LOL
I refuse to use the sarcasm font

I just like to lay my sacarasm out there raw for everyone to digest.

Yeah, my fellings also

If they don’t get it….F em!

yeah fight the power
Absolutely the correct approach.

Sarcasm loses all impact if you have to baldly say “this is sarcasm.”

I do understand the sarcasm font...

There are no visual or tonal cues in an online text forum. Like I might say “I love Dave Joyner” to you in person while dismissively wanking so hard it knocks out a passerby, but you can’t get that here.

That said, I like to live dangerously.

Sometimes its fun to imagine how other people are taking what you intended to say sarcastically, seriously.

Example. Rob Bolden is a quality quarterback and has only gotten better since his first day on campus.

What are you carzy, Bolden has shit tons of talent.

He can throw a ball 70 yards in the air.

Yeah

and Uncle Rico could throw a ball over them mountains.

And I was not being serious
Dude probably could throw the ball 70 yards

He struggles when he tries to put touch on his deep balls, and ends up underthrowing them. But the kid has an absolute cannon for an arm.

I was

Uncle Rico could have won states if coach would have put him in for the 4th quarter.

Your Mom coulda won states
I'm glad you've decided to drink

I too have picked up the bottle. Cheers.

cheers
I need a suggestion for #2

The choices are beer, beer, scotch, whiskey

Why not have them all? George Thorogood style

But it depends what are the beer choices, whats the scotch and whats the whiskey?

I think I'll go with the whiskey

I got that for stealing my sister-in-law’s shoe at her wedding

after a few, it really doesn't matter what you go with

sounds like a good story though

It's a Slovak thing
ah, I see

Wasn’t close with that side of my mom’s family, so I never learnt it

gettin' dirty drunk t'night...

natty lights. a case of ’em…

I thought you said drunk
It takes a case of them

But you can, in fact, get drunk on natty light

I'm drinking one of the worst beers out there
The worst beer out there

Hands down is called Big Flats. Walgreens makes it. They sell it in their stores at 2.99 a six pack. I had never had a beer I refused to drink until I had that.

Haha, never had that

I’m drinking Bud Light Lime…there I said it. HAPPY NOW?

/raises hand

I love Bud Light Lime in the summer, or at a tailgate.

Tonight is a brown liquor night, no two ways about it.

Bud Light lime sucks

But it isn’t even close to as bad as Big Flats is. Imagine what dehydrated camel urine must taste like. Its definitely worse than that

I've seen it. Yikes.

Although I’m (seriously) drinking Pabst. It really does win awards — at least as of 2005.

Pabst is awesome

I’m actually drinking it right now too. Of all shitty light beers, its my favorite.

Before the 2005 award, the only other award it won was in 1896. It was the only beer entered in the competition in a contest that was orchestrated by the man who brewed Pabst.

I’m glad you call it Pabst though. All the damn hipsters drink it now and refer to it as PBR, which we all know is really the professional bull riders association

It actually has flavor.
For that,

I think you need to drop

/dismissive wanking motion

or a wanking gif on them to hammer your point home. No need for a special font.

Well I do that sometimes. When I really am wanking very dismissively. Wanking dismissively in my office and getting strange looks from secretaries.
True story

Pitt stadium 1998….pre kickoff they had some dude in a jet pack land on the 50 yard line and their crowd was getting all fired up…I completely did a dismissive wank

this is why you're awesome
No Kidding . . .

Sarcasm is something that we signal nonverbally. And it is more dicey, thus fun, in a medium which filters out all nonverbal channels.

Great statement from Kerry Collins

Much is being said about the hiring of Bill O’Brien as the next football coach at Penn State. I do not know him. I have never met him nor been coached by him. One thing I do know is that I will support him and I call on all Penn State football lettermen to do the same. Whether you agree or disagree with his hiring, we should support him. Instead of chastising him for not being a Penn Stater, let’s show him what it means to be a Penn Stater. Coach O’Brien is faced with the daunting task of resurrecting our beloved, yet bruised program. Let’s support him in any way we can.

Kerry Collins

Penn State ’94

A bit of a moral dichotomy for me on this.

Is it possible to support the coach yet completely loathe and distrust the administration all at the same time?

If I write a check to fund scholarships or buy tickets, isn’t that just affirming that the administration is doing their job and I support them?

My life would be better if our leadership wasn’t so incompetent.

Oh it is possible

The way you reconcile is by formulating a way to eradicate the BoT in its current form while sending in the donations. The time for sitting on the sidelines and letting things hum along is over. It’s time to take charge and get these asshats out of power in our University.

Easier said than done

but very necessary.

Doesn't eradicating the BoT in its current form mean a change of bylaws?

I’m all for reviewing this, to eliminate in particular the political element, as naive as that sounds (it’s all political when you come down to it). The challenge in changing bylaws is the the BoT holds the strings, but I’d advocate for a much stronger role of alumni over the current precepts. Something larger than a gang of 47 when it comes to the direction of the University, and a much larger segment subject to alumni discretion than the current alumni trustee base represents. How does such a measure become nominated?…much more research to do in my “spare” time.

I'm not sending a single dime in while Erikson is Pres.

And I’m taking my toys and going home…

Probably should've clarified

I meant that we need to work together to get rid of everyone on the BoT. We also need to make sure that there’s good people to replace them though or it’s all for naught. Like everyone’s saying, not easy, but necessary.

Send your donations directly to your major

The administration really hates that

This is true

I worked for a year as one of the people who calls alumni for donations (shittiest job ever). They really do hate when people give to specific programs because it limits what they can spend it on.

To: Lionettes

For: My living room.
Amount: [Redacted]

but you can't do that

if you want to support the current football players at the game by getting season tickets.

Not at all

That’s like saying “because I pay taxes, I must support everything our government is doing.”

Besides, most decisions are not made by the board or Old Main, but by deans and department chairmen.

I plan to continue supporting soccer, hockey, and baseball by joining the respective booster clubs.

This has to be c&p from above and reposted; this information is too glorious to die up above at the tail-end of a tangent. So, Sublime, what other books do you recommend?

“The greatest pornographic work

of Classical Antiquity is The Golden Ass by Apulieus — but you must read the Robert Graves translation.

This book is falling-on-the-floor funny.

“The limits of my language mean the limits of my world” — Ludwig Wittgenstein

by SubLime on Jan 6, 2012 3:38 PM PST"

For now WB,

The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov — the devil, Pontius Pilate, and early Soviet Russian attitudes in a hilarious book, erotic too. This is one of the books which foreshadow postmodernism in the literary arts.

yes, remembe thinking it was a good book, tho' it's been years; wonder if I still have my copy; admit I was in my 20s; probably didn't understand half of what I read.

if i still have it, i’ll give it a re-read; just order The Golden Asse off of Amazon. Sounds like a fun book. Was able to get the Graves translation (actually lots of copies out there). Amazing how important the right translator is.

Thanks for the book recs.

"just ordered" that is.
Re-read Bulgakov -- it will be a different text for you.

And I’ll guarantee that you’ll enjoy Apulieus. The Graves translation is imperative here.

yep, that would be my guess. also went ahead and order Dog's Heart and Fatal Eggs; sounded interesting.
geez, must be some mental gap for me: "went ahead and ordered ..."
If that's Heart of a Dog, then it's a seminal work of satire on the Soviet system.

Also roll-on-the-floor funny.

yes, Heart of a Dog (tho' one of the translations was written as "A Dog's Heart")

Fatal Egg is considered science fiction; I am a fan of SciFi; so figured I’d order it while was on amazon.

Ahh the Golden Ass

Read that in undergrad, was hysterical. Some of the sexual language is great.

It really is.
Time has come...

You are either for this or against it. If you are against giving this guy a chance then seriously go root for Pitt.

This is a great hire…

Fixed this for you

You are either for this or against it. If you are against giving this guy a chance then seriously go root for Pitt.

This is a great hire…

I can give the guy a chance and still find this hire to be horribly inept. Hopefully he’ll prove everyone wrong and we’ll be discussing who his replacement will be in 2052, or if he’s even going to retire.

Where is everyone getting this information....

…from reporters and Bradley’s lawyer??

Guess I need a twitter account??
Ganim

Has a picture of BOB and family arriving in SC

http://yfrog.com/nxuivznj

Fuzzy quality but im apt to trust her…

Looks more like Vin Diesel.

6a6t And The 6u6io66 must be filming in State College.

lol.... yep, "fuzzy" is definitely the right word.
Fuzzy?

I’ve seen clearer images of Bigfoot!

You mean that isn't Bigfoot?
fair fair

but she’s not really a troll

no, not saying she's lying. but i'm not sure I would call that a "photo." LOL
Ben Just tweeted that he saw BOB with his "own two eyes"
What if it was out of the corner of his eye

would he say, my “own eye”

LOLOLing... that was exactly what I thought. I almost joked Ganim should send it in as 'evidence' for that new "Finding Bigfoot" tv show.
Coach O'Brien is real!

He ain’t going anywhere, at least for a year. Unless we run him out of town like Kirk herbstriet in Ohio.

Get behind your new head football coach. Let’s see if he can graduate his players, avoid off field issues, play entertaining football, and win some games. In that order.

I'll put win some games before entertaining football

Other than, agreed

I have no interest in entertaining football

I want to see PSU win every game 28-0, 350 yards rushing.

Right On.

Lions, Steelers. Penguins, Bucs — I don’t want drama. I want those other guys to have drama.

He'll get three years

By then we’ll have a new President, AD and if he succeeded he’ll bolt for the NFL. If he sucked, he’ll be fired.

WWTCD?

Anyone else curious about what Tim Curley is thinking as he watches this? The man spent the better part of a decade planning for this one event, and now he’s watching it be handled in the worst way possible

Whatever, a big part of this mess is on his shoulders
Yeah

Even if he’s found innocent, he still Bill Bucknered the whole situation.

Why wasn’t Sherburne allowed to take over? He’s got a lot of experience

Fuck him

He should have handled a much more important event properly. Then he wouldn’t be in this situation

Rittenberg tweet

Bradley let go by penn state

Evidently Grosz just said on radio that Scrap called him, and said that this is factually inaccurate and no coaches have been let go yet

Crazy

This whole thing is like trying to understand quantum mechanics.

I have buddies in that field, and even they can't figure this shit out
Thats actually my favorite part of physics

And why I got into physics in the first place.

Well then, explain this?

Bradley’s job is like Schrodinger’s Cat

Thats actually a pretty solid analogy right now

He both has it and doesn’t have it. So his job exists in both states, until we ‘open the box’ and find out the cats dead.

hey hey hey

a little optimism here, the cat could be alive!

The cat is alive and dead at the same time.

Duh.

I think the cat is alive.

But desperately wants to be dead.

The cat deserved so much better.

sigh

Screw the cat

He crapped on the floor, why do you think he was in the box?

I don't think we're talking about the same cat.
(i.e. we didn't open the box because Joyner is a dickhole)
a dick in a box?

actually makes more sense than what came out before

I mean, O’brien has been in SC for what, 2 minutes? How could he settle on a staff so fast? Makes sense that they’re all still in limbo

So now is everybody on board with B Short?
I'm on board with K Collins.
I'm with G Oriber.
My outrage with the way Joyner has handled the last 24 hours is huge

But I toss my support behind O’Brien. This won’t be easy, he doesn’t need us making things even harder for him. TWSS.

no

not in the least

Hell nooo..

I will give BOB a chance, he is put in a tough situation nobody wanted.

How do we know nobody wanted it?
ESPN talking heads keep saying so

duh

Yep. Kuddos to him for accepting the challenge and the inevitable backlash.....

….I’ll reserve judgement and hope for the best

I'm on board with J. Daniels
Im calling bull on this.

like Omar said Grosz said he is still on the staff per statement from Bradley

Honest question.

Since he became IHC, has the press asked Bradley one Sandusky related question?

Yeah

I recall they did before Nebraska. No big deal.

So, yes, once,

during the immediate aftermath when no one else from the school would speak about it. Got it.

Yes...

Prior to Nebraska game. He denied all knowledge…

Best cheap beer I ever had

National Bohemia’s Best….sold in twelve pack bottles at Sharkie’s for less than $8 back in ’97

Its made in Baltimore

I had actually never had it until I moved to DC. Its pretty great though.

Originally from Baltimore

Now brewed in NC by Pabst: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bohemian

Used to gobble up old German 40's. $1.98 per bottle
Too expensive....

in 97, my fav was a case of forties of Milwaukee’s Best Ice….. 12 40’s = 1.7 cases of beer by colume, and the stuff was 6%. Nasty hangovers though

cost was $17
still kind of expensive for an emitic
Buying cases of 40s

Is always the best decision, cost-wise. That is, if you aren’t buying a keg. You could get Mickey’s for 1 dollar a bottle my freshman year (2004)

Yeah, sophomore year in Erie we had to resort to cases of Hurricanes.
Everything better when we were young

Now, my story begins in 19-dickety-two. We had to say “dickety” cause that Kaiser had stolen our word “twenty”. I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles…

Love it!

I can get a sixer of Boh for $4 at the right six-pack shop here in York. A cold case is like $13. Can’t beat that with a stick.

Damn, I've never been able to find it again

You are the first people I’ve brought it up with that have heard of it. Maybe we paid a lot less for it back in the day, after all it was over 10 years ago and I was underage and drunk.

Is this the Cotton Bowl open thread?

WOO K STATE!

cotton bowl is on FOX? nooooooooooooooooooooooo
Fox has never employed Craig James

Give them a little credit.

very true, that same Craig James that ALLEGEDLY killed 5 hookers while at SMU and that SAME Craig James that refused to deny the allegations.

“His silence speaks volumes” as would be reverently intoned by ESpin announcers.

As for FOX, yes, that is a plus.

You know

I am tired of people insinuating the Craig James Killed 5 Hookers while at SMU. I am also sick and tired of people saying the after Craig James Killed 5 Hookers at SMU he did not bury said Hookers but instead eat them.

There is no evidence the Craig james Killed 5 Hookers, it is just wrong of everyone to try and pass this off, Craig James killed 5 Hookers while at SMU is just not supported by the facts. Ridiculous, just ridiculous!!

If we get a Game Day next year, who is all for making one of those ridiculously large signs

that reads “Craig James Killed 5 Hookers at SMU”

I am so in for that.
me too if Game Day ever dares to show up in C-Bus.
I have this dream that Game Day will want to come to Penn State in the future

And either the administration tells them to go to hell, the on-air boos are so deafening they have to move inside the BJC, or, best of all, absolutely no one shows up.

Gameday?!

They’re not going to be able to say “and today’s game is televised nationally on ESPN” over the stadium PA without a riot for a decade.

Ramzy from 11W got nice on James' campaign donation site.

https://rally.org/activities/hdoxA9HvRu3

WTF?

Is that for real, or a joke?

Took me a second to get the joke

Clearly, Senative James’ staff hasn’t figured it out yet.

Who is Ramzy and 11W

guess it would be funnier if I knew who he was

Ramzy Nasrallah, from Ohio State blog Eleven Warriors.
That is Fucking Awesome
That is so good

Can’t even tell aat first, until you really look at it.

Incredible

Phenomenal…..every other superlative evah

agree with you entirely. All of these insinuations that Craig James killed 5 hookers could be cleared up if he would hold a press conference and address the issue.

What is he hiding? why won’t he speak? America deserves answers.

FWIW, my view is that the allegations that Craig James killed 5 hookers are inaccurate. I have it from a good source that the sex workers (their preferred term) were already dead when Craig James arrived. So it is necrophilia that James is hiding (ya know, reportedly and allegedly). Again, this is just my opinion, so give it the appropriate weight.

ESPN has it on tape that Craig James' wife has acknowledged the murders

to one of the hooker’s family.

Lou Holtz giving BOB his "talking points" for his first press conference; made good points.
basic idea: You may not know me, but I had a choice; I had a good job: but I chose PennState. Give me a chance to cointinue the greatness that is PSU. (all that was paraphrasing)
Dead on without the lisp paraphrasing, or more liberal?
I spilled beer on my shirt, and threw some on my face- you know, for effect
LOL... it's early yet in the evening so his drunken lisp was less obvious. it was more like one of his Dr. Lou Pep Talks.

So, it was basically rhetoric, but good rhetoric. It was a suggested way for O’Brien to move past the fans/former player reactions of the last day or two.

But did he spit on the camera?
LOLing. not that i could see. LOL
Okay, maniacs.

We’re approaching 725 comments. Take it over here:

http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2012/1/6/2688495/cotton-bowl-open-thread

LOL... a MOD's work is never done.
My whole reaction to this thing is a decided "meh"

It’s disappointing, but not unexpected. If he sucks, then maybe tickets will be more affordable and I’ll get to go to more games. If he’s great, then PSU is succeeding and I can’t complain about that.

Not incredibly pleased with how the search was run though

I get the feeling that the BoT/Joyner really could give a shit about the alumni/students/fans. And that hurts the most.

I don't know about that

I just think they didn’t know how to incorporate outside input in a constructive way so they just freaked out and ignored it.

On the one hand, they can’t listen to every Tom, Dick, and Harry that calls into Cory Giger’s show (or whatever) but they can’t be totally tone-deaf either. Managing that balance is a skill. It’s a skill that Joyner may not have, but it’s not because he doesn’t care. He just isn’t a good politician.

I think a number of people are now suddenly in high level jobs at PSU that they aren’t really prepared for because of the sudden axing of four top people and the subsequent field promotions. They may learn in time or not. But it doesn’t mean they aren’t trying or don’t care.

And the board is just so big and unwieldy, it’s little wonder they can’t provide straight answers. They have no mechanism in place to do so. So people are demanding answers but there’s no single person who can answer them. So it falls on Erickson, but he’s not the board and he wasn’t there when some of these decisions were made so he doesnt know.

That’s why they desperately need to retool their whole PR operation. I suspect that’s an area that gets cut in fiscal crises, like now, but they really need to spend some money on it.

Chris! Time to start a new BO'B thread

This one’s too drunk to drive home!

#gimmethekeys
#onefortheroad

Now I know why Joe Pa stayed for so long

Nobody in the higher ups are capable of making decisions.

I think Scrap got a raw deal

He deserved to be the guy, and a less qualified guy was hired due to bullshit PR reasons only.

That being said, I am genuinely excited and nervous about this hire. Hopefully we’ve seen the last of the PSU’s staff’s safety blanket (the soft zone) losing football games.

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